Waterski??

[chperplt]

Who goes by Waterski??


Anyway,

To the crew of the RJ in Burlington this morning.... I hope I didn't get you in trouble when I told that loud mouth UAL captain to shut up. I'm sure he thought it was you guys who said it.. If he turns you in to Pro Standards as he said he would, tell them Chperplt from Flight Info said it!!

As entertaining as the converstation you guys were having was, that UAL captain (I'm assuming it was the captain) was a jackass!!

If the UAL captain is reading this post... You acted like a child this morning and in turn pissed off your express partners passengers.. Um.. I mean your passengers!!

Some people don't get the big picture...

 

[jergar999]

Would you care to share the story?

 

[EMBpilot]

"Waterski" is Trans States Airlines



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[chperplt]

I guess sharing the story would help!!

Burlington is a mess this morning.. Real cold with blowing snow. The de-ice trucks are running around as fast as they can. The TSA RJ was getting the squirt when ground tells them they have a ground stop to IAD. They stop deicing and the trucks go on their way..

A few minutes later ground tells them the stop is over and they need them in the air as quickly as they can. The RJ calls the iceman again and asks for a quick re spray so they can go. Iceman says I've got the UAL 737 in line before you, but if your company wants you guys out first, I'll be there next. The RJ tells the iceman that ATC needs them to go ASAP and the iceman says he'll be right over.

Now, the UAL guy gets on the radio and tells the iceman that he doesn't give a crap about the RJ and they are to deice them first. The RJ guys say that all they need is a quick spray of IV and they can go. The dick head... I mean UAL guy tells them that they should have planned better and again tells the deice guys that they will spray him first. A few more words are said back and forth (nothing unprofessional from the RJ guys) and after the UAL guy goes on and on I tell him to shut up.

He then says give me your name and flight # so I can turn you in to Pro Stands.. He's the one who needs to be turned in to Pro Stands..

It's one thing to screw your competitor, but to do it to your companies own passengers...

 

[Bandit60]

According to the UAL pilot it would have been better planning to keep the deice truck waiting on the RJ. If he planned like the UAL pilot wanted he still wouldnt have been de-iced first. What a jerk.

Good for you Chperplt

 

[FarginDooshbahg]

after the UAL guy goes on and on I tell him to shut up.

Whether he thinks it is warranted or not, if any FO of mine decides to get involved in a piss!ng contest on the radio and tells another crew member to "shut up", he gets a quick straight right to the chops from me. Never mind Pro Standards. Sombody needs to put Mr. BIG TIME FO in his place.

 

[labbats]

I always thought waterski was Chautauqua doing American Connection flying.

 

[Chip]

you always thought wrong....

 

[172driver]

Whether he thinks it is warranted or not, if any FO of mine decides to get involved in a piss!ng contest on the radio and tells another crew member to "shut up", he gets a quick straight right to the chops from me. Never mind Pro Standards. Sombody needs to put Mr. BIG TIME FO in his place.

You might want to evaluate the size and strength of the FO before taking action like that...or hope that you have a really good straight right.

 

[chperplt]

Hey Dooshbag

Thanks for your comments. I'm guessing by your "he gets a quick straight right to the chops" comment that you're talking about some kind of boxing move. I wouldn't recommend that as your future ability to hold a 1st class medical will be in question..

You must be just as joyful to fly with as this UAL captain.

 

[LearLove]

O no not pro standards.... whats next he's gonna call your parents? Pro standards/alpa is a joke.

This was on a DE-ice freq, right?

If you really wanted to F with the UAL crew you should have asked to taxi or roposition (some excuse to move) then taxied infront of or behind UAL as to block them and stoped. When your told to move say you cant as you have a nosewheel steering problem (or something of that sort) and your on the phone with MX. Conviently as their deice time or takeoff time expires your nose wheel steering problem fixes itself and you go along your way.

Remember its all in good fun, not that I ever employed any sort or variation of these tatics

 

[trip]

In hindsight they should have just finnished the first deice job and went to sit somewhere to wait. Then they could still launch when called if they they are still clean and free of snow and ice. If not clean then back to deice, dont expect front of the line just because ATC says jump. ATC knows you will need time for start-up and stuff they will have plan ahead as well. Snide comments dont accomplish anything, especially from the sidelines.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

I agree with chperplt.

Doosh, you're not the F/Os daddy.

Lighten up.

 

[Reebo]

I agree with chperplt.

Doosh, you're not the F/Os daddy.

Lighten up.

easy to say from the right seat. when the captain is called to go see the chief pilot, its a pretty weak excuse to say, oh the f/o was on the radio. PIC is held accountable, even in a unprofessional pissing match with the mother ship.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

Gimme a break. Nobody is going to get called onto the carpet for anything.

 

[Godfather]

What a Wuss..

Tell em Vegas Boy! You are my hero!!! I hereby nominate you to be the next MEC Chairman at DCI

Ceeeeeeyyyaaaaa!

 

[Bryan D]

Just to make things more interesting, you could have pulled in front of Mr UAL and gave him a blast of snow just after his deice. That'll show him!

 

[Reebo]

Gimme a break. Nobody is going to get called onto the carpet for anything.

ur probably right, but that does not excuse ANYONE from being unprofessional on the radio. i agree with doosh, not his methods, but his point that any f/o who acts like this would need to be spoken to rather quickly and very directly !!

 

[Coolhans]

How do "they" know who "you" are anyway, unless you give yourself away somehow?

How does anybody know for sure if it's the F/O or the Capt. on the radio??

 

[Rook]

maybe the UAL guy just need a diaper change and was pissed off. Good for you chperplt. I would've just made like i was crying on the radio "wahhhh!!" but 'shut up' would suffice.

Rook

 

[chperplt]

I think people are missing the story here.. The TSA RJ and the UAL guy were getting into it on the radio...on the deice freq. I just told the UAL guy to shut up..

 

[sluminginpit]

First of all none of us ever follow thorugh with reporting people, were to lazy! Thats why we all stay in this fully rewarding job. Pro Standards is ridiculous, just say " What! I have no idea what your talking about? Please refresh my memory on this.

As for the FO getting on the radio and saying something, great, that way I don't have to put my coffee down and raise my blood pressure! Honestly I could care less about some whiny United pilot crying about deice.

Advise, if you were to slap me up in the chops, DUCK!

 

[FlyChicaga]

I could see if an FO dropped an attitude that was uncalled for, yes, maybe a discussion about professionalism on the radio is appropriate. But calling out someone to check their attitude doesn't seem to me like a big deal. I wouldn't get on my crewmembers case about it unless they had no reason for the action.

Obviously in this example, the bitching on the radio was becoming really counterproductive, and it seemed time to just "shut up" and get on with the program.

 

[BeCareful!]

Maybe it was the UAL FO, and he's just cranky because he is now making less than the Waterski Captain!



What a rational industry we've chosen!

 

[outtahere]

We are "regional pilots", how dare we tell some all knowing UAL capt. to shut his friggin' pie hole. Personally I think you should have dragged him out of the cockpit and beat the crap out of him, and if your capt. said something about it, beat the crap out of him too! Sorry for the hostility, I just got extended to go fly with the UAL capt. brother.

 

[uba757]

That United guy probably flew for American Airlines first and the bug up his A?? is still there. You know once a NAZI always a NAZI.

 

[av8tor4239]

FYI, Now days everyone including fo is pulled into the chief poo's office and delt with! Not just the cptn... pay is bout the same now anyway

 

[rptrain]

easy to say from the right seat.

Groan. You did notice that FurloughedAgain does have twice as much flight time as you, and might even have some PIC time in there somewhere?

thought for the day: "just because you were a lousy copilot doesn't mean everyone else is."

 

[Reebo]

Groan. You did notice that FurloughedAgain does have twice as much flight time as you, and might even have some PIC time in there somewhere?

thought for the day: "just because you were a lousy copilot doesn't mean everyone else is."

now i see why people dont like to post on this stupid azz board, its idiots like u. i fly with quite a few first officers who not only have more flight time than i but they have flown better equipment too. its because of seniority that i occupy the left seat. someone is responsible for the aircraft and that person is the PIC. whether or not the f/o has more time, or more lunar landings. i personally take into account who im flying with and give those the respect and lattitude they deserve, its a hard enough pill to swallow for them without some punk azz rj captain giving them attitude. now for the situation as it was described, i would have to say somthing to the f/o regardless as i feel it was uncalled for and as i said before im the PIC, seems to me that YOU have a problem with that. as for my f/o abilities, never had a captain complain

thought for the day: "just because you're a punk azz f/o doesn't mean everyone else is."

 

[outtahere]

now i see why people dont like to post on this stupid azz board, its idiots like u. i fly with quite a few first officers who not only have more flight time than i but they have flown better equipment too. its because of seniority that i occupy the left seat. someone is responsible for the aircraft and that person is the PIC. whether or not the f/o has more time, or more lunar landings. i personally take into account who im flying with and give those the respect and lattitude they deserve, its a hard enough pill to swallow for them without some punk azz rj captain giving them attitude. now for the situation as it was described, i would have to say somthing to the f/o regardless as i feel it was uncalled for and as i said before im the PIC, seems to me that YOU have a problem with that. as for my f/o abilities, never had a captain complain

thought for the day: "just because you're a punk azz f/o doesn't mean everyone else is."

Now see here this is a guy who takes this job entirely to serious. Lighten up and have some fun for the love of God. If you are confident in yourself as a pilot you don't have to put up the front of I AM CAPTAIN, you are just another pilot trying to make more money and get more time off.