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NO PARTYING during training! Thats the only way i made it threw. Get out of the hotel and find some tail with your new buddys. Take out the new F/A class. To much airplane talk will drive you insane. Pay attention in class and dedicate acouple hours every night and allllllot of time at the end. (not a insult just my 2 cents)ATITUDE GOES ALONG WAY!!!!!!
 
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big pimpn' said:
Hey logolight, I see you are on furlough from Independance Air. Sorry to hear that, however you must have plenty of time to study your flash cards and use your sim partner as a study tool.

Let's just say that I got through AWAC's training in only 3 1/2 weeks and 5 sims, all without the use of flash cards, and I've delt with plenty of worse insults on the message boards. But you study however you want...oh wait...you don't have an airline or airplane listed in your profile. Call me when you're ready to get hired and I'll lend you some flash cards. You do know how to use those right?
 
Logolight, Keep your flashcards and go lock yourself in your hotel room while everyone else has a good time. You take yourself way too seriously, you are an FO for AWAC, not Thunderbird 2. Just because I do not take myself as seriously as you do and list on my profile that I have 3 ATP turbojet type ratings and my current position is flying a 4 engine heavy does not mean I do not work for a reputable airline.

I am sure you are a nice guy, you just need to relax in my opinion.
 
All 12 made it through in my class.
3 of 18 sent home in the class prior to me. All were given multiple chances to redeem themselves.

Course we are all about to get sent home with the posting of the reduction award tomorrow
 
big pimpn' said:
Logolight, Keep your flashcards and go lock yourself in your hotel room while everyone else has a good time. You take yourself way too seriously, you are an FO for AWAC, not Thunderbird 2. Just because I do not take myself as seriously as you do and list on my profile that I have 3 ATP turbojet type ratings and my current position is flying a 4 engine heavy does not mean I do not work for a reputable airline.

I am sure you are a nice guy, you just need to relax in my opinion.

So the offender becomes the offended. Hey, I'm not saying become a nun. I've seen guys party hard and get the boot. Just use common sense. Now I can take the hits with the rest of them. I'm sure you're a nice guy too, but all I'm trying to do is offer good advise. But as long as you're just poking fun it's all good man. You're still on my Christmast list.

Cheers.

P.S. I'm tellin ya, try the flash cards...
 
logolight said:
Let's just say that I got through AWAC's training in only 3 1/2 weeks and 5 sims,

Hmmm. AWAC's infamous 3.5 week plan. Where you go through indoc, then receive no systems ground school, proceed to do a few CPT's, then only 4 sims before your PC. I don't know how they get away with that. At least provide every new-hire the same amount of training! They think nothing of ruining someones career by washing them out!
 
pipejockey said:
Hmmm. AWAC's infamous 3.5 week plan. Where you go through indoc, then receive no systems ground school, proceed to do a few CPT's, then only 4 sims before your PC. I don't know how they get away with that. At least provide every new-hire the same amount of training! They think nothing of ruining someones career by washing them out!

The short course is for those current in type or type rated in the aircraft. If you need more time and are working hard you get the time needed. I'd venture a guess that most of the short course people do OK and might not need all the sessions. Logo?
 
pipejockey said:
At least provide every new-hire the same amount of training! They think nothing of ruining someones career by washing them out!

Pipejockey,

He was/is from ACA/Indepence Air. They (AWAC) have a shortened course for people qualified in the airplane.

As an off-the-street newhire with no CRJ time (this included a 121 captain) we were all given 2 weeks indoc, 2 weeks systems, 4 days CPT, and 10 sims (including LOFT and checkride, so actually 8-9 sims depending on how you look at it).

I felt it was more than enough, except maybe the sims. But I suppose you can't ever get enough of those :).

~wheelsup
 
Getting there

I have been studying since May 05 for the interview and am planning on blowing $ 3000 this weekend in Oregon looking for fog and rain. I will be sending my apps out in two weeks hoping that I make the cut. I am planning on working the Frasca for two weeks so I can get my call outs right. This weekend I have a FO @ Skywest flying with me in oregon to help me with the CRM and Jepps.

Just tell me that I have preplanned this the right way. I have seen a few people showup for sim training and prep classes the day before the interview hoping that they have not forgot anything. It does make one wonder about thier planning for the interview.

You are now free to smoke about the cabin :o)
 
WhiteCloud said:
The short course is for those current in type or type rated in the aircraft. If you need more time and are working hard you get the time needed. I'd venture a guess that most of the short course people do OK and might not need all the sessions. Logo?

To add on to Whitecloud's post. Yes, we were current and qualified in the CRJ because we were furloughed from Independence Air only 1 week before class started at AWAC. We did 2 weeks of indoc, immediately went to 3 days of recurrent systems with CPT's in the same 3 days. Followed immediately by 6 sims which included a loft and the check ride. All in about 3 1/2 weeks. Don't get me wrong, it was no cake walk. The hardest thing for us Independence guys was learning the new call outs, profiles, and memory items because they were completely different from Independence's. It still was a bit of a firehose for us but we all made it through just fine.
 
Mojo Risen said:
I have been studying since May 05 for the interview and am planning on blowing $ 3000 this weekend in Oregon looking for fog and rain. I will be sending my apps out in two weeks hoping that I make the cut. I am planning on working the Frasca for two weeks so I can get my call outs right. This weekend I have a FO @ Skywest flying with me in oregon to help me with the CRM and Jepps.

Just tell me that I have preplanned this the right way. I have seen a few people showup for sim training and prep classes the day before the interview hoping that they have not forgot anything. It does make one wonder about thier planning for the interview.

You are now free to smoke about the cabin :o)

Where in Oregon?
 
In my class 4 quit/washed out. The first was lost to Mesaba. The second was lost to the drug test (no marijuana before class folks!). One of my roommates washed out due to problems with the sim and threatening to kick the head of training's ass. That'll generally not go over well. The last one was fired near the end of IOE for having a bad attitude. I've noticed the company will try to help out, but if you have a bad attitude about it, they'll just fire you.
 
Superpilot92 said:
sims and lack of hitting the books. 2 people out of 32 in my class i think washed out. Some people just burn themselves out and over doing it. So with that said try and have fun also while in training is my advice.

Yup, I'm with him/her on this one. 2 out of 32 washed out in my class due to reasons listed above, and maybe some others.
 

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