Wacko IBT Got PUNKE'D!! Sues FAPA Anyway...

[Axel]

On the very day RAH made its (ill advised) purchase of Frontier, a hearing was being held in Houston by IBT regarding GS and co's activities with TLU 747. GS had been removed from his position as 747's president months before. GS and/or TM never had anything to do with Frontier or RAH's purchase thereof.

Secondarily, are you aware of how GS was able to do what he did for as long as he did and what happened that finally brought his activities to light?

Did/do you not know this, did you forget it, or did you choose to ignore it in the interest of inflammatory rhetoric?

First Officer Morgan, your attempt to connect GS/TM to current events is, by definition, non sequitur.

Edit:

Seeing as how this all went down over four years ago, memory is a little hazy as to exact timelines. Upon reflection, I believe it was the YX purchase that was announced the day of the hearing in Houston rather than the intent to purchase F9. The F9 purchase was announced a short time later.

Regardless, it does not change the fact that GS/TM were long gone by the time all the fun and games started with the SLI.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Edit:

Seeing as how this all went down over four years ago, memory is a little hazy as to exact timelines. Upon reflection, I believe it was the YX purchase that was announced the day of the hearing in Houston rather than the intent to purchase F9. The F9 purchase was announced a short time later.

Regardless, it does not change the fact that GS/TM were long gone by the time all the fun and games started with the SLI.

It has nothing to do with the SLI. Tell me smart ass, what ever happend to the money that he stole? Did the pilots ever get a refund or remedy?

 

[Bluestreak]

Motion to dismiss the IBT lawsuit-DENIED.Another FAPA/RAH fail.Or were you afraid to post that ?

 

[F9 Driver]

Motion to dismiss the IBT lawsuit-DENIED.Another FAPA/RAH fail.Or were you afraid to post that ?

Actually it was the motion for an expedited briefing schedule and expedited judgment of the request for dismissal that was denied. The merits of the case have yet to be heard, but why let facts get in the way of your argument at this late stage.

Do you realize that the ultimate result of the IBT winning their lawsuit would be native RAH pilots on the street along with the Frontier pilots,and NO SLI?
:uzi: Keep cheering schmucks.

 

[Bluestreak]

Actually it was the motion for an expedited briefing schedule and expedited judgment of the request for dismissal that was denied. The merits of the case have yet to be heard, but why let facts get in the way of your argument at this late stage.

Do you realize that the ultimate result of the IBT winning their lawsuit would be native RAH pilots on the street along with the Frontier pilots,and NO SLI?
:uzi: Keep cheering schmucks.

Spin it as you wish-Investco is toast.As for native RAH pilots on the street-not so much.I know that must be a huge concern of yours.We are hiring.If the F9 pilots end up on the street,SLI is irrelevant.You don't work for RAH anymore and F9 is not a drag on earnings-sounds like a win-win !

 

[Axel]

It has nothing to do with the SLI. Tell me smart ass, what ever happend to the money that he stole? Did the pilots ever get a refund or remedy?

Nothing to do with the SLI. lol

International paid back about 4X to the RAH group by funding the defense against the staple job proposed by FAPA.

Now: Do you know why GS was able to do what he did for as long as he did? Be specific. Use initials and titles.

Hint: DT

 

[SizzleChest]

Nothing to do with the SLI. lol

International paid back about 4X to the RAH group by funding the defense against the staple job proposed by FAPA.

Now: Do you know why GS was able to do what he did for as long as he did? Be specific. Use initials and titles.

Hint: DT

clarification: Current DT wasn't here then... it was a different old guy in that same position title with the same intials... Don not Doug

 

[SizzleChest]

Actually it was the motion for an expedited briefing schedule and expedited judgment of the request for dismissal that was denied. The merits of the case have yet to be heard, but why let facts get in the way of your argument at this late stage.

Do you realize that the ultimate result of the IBT winning their lawsuit would be native RAH pilots on the street along with the Frontier pilots,and NO SLI?
:uzi: Keep cheering schmucks.

with staffing like it is, a handful of native-RAH guys furloughed wouldn't be the worst thing. Sometimes there is collateral damage for the greater good. in this case, F9 pilots don't know the meaning of FINAL & BINDING. F9 is a cancer as it is. Everybody knows and sees this. IBT has to stop the infection..... The SLI will still be in effect though... the date is only 8 days away now.....

 

[Axel]

clarification: Current DT wasn't here then... it was a different old guy in that same position title with the same intials... Don not Doug

Correct. Thanks.

 

[F9 Driver]

with staffing like it is, a handful of native-RAH guys furloughed wouldn't be the worst thing. Sometimes there is collateral damage for the greater good. in this case, F9 pilots don't know the meaning of FINAL & BINDING. F9 is a cancer as it is. Everybody knows and sees this. IBT has to stop the infection..... The SLI will still be in effect though... the date is only 8 days away now.....

Wow. I don't have the words to express how effed up your world view is.

Please don't breed.

 

[stratus72]

Motion to dismiss the IBT lawsuit-DENIED.Another FAPA/RAH fail.Or were you afraid to post that ?

Get your facts straight...

 

[SizzleChest]

Wow. I don't have the words to express how effed up your world view is.

Please don't breed.

no effing.... I imagine nearly all of the native-RAH would be supportive in helping native-RAH to gain traction against the F9 folks who wanna take their ball and go home at any cost. F9 has destroyed far more than native-RAH could/wanted..... that's the crime.

P.S.- i never would have guessed you one to be at a loss for words. Since you must not have a retort, you posted what you did. Viva IBT!!

 

[ChinaClipper]

Viva IBT? You just got snookered and National is JUST NOW figuring that out. You have the WORST CONTRACT in the biz, the LOWEST PAY, NO WORK RULES and SIX YEARS in Section 6? BB is gonna jerk ya around for at least a couple more, just for sport. Just keep sending in the dues money, you sound like just what they IBT wants in its members..low expectations, even lower results and ..the Delusional......kinda like thinking you'll EVER see an Airbus Seat.......

 

[Bluestreak]

Viva IBT? You just got snookered and National is JUST NOW figuring that out. You have the WORST CONTRACT in the biz, the LOWEST PAY, NO WORK RULES and SIX YEARS in Section 6? BB is gonna jerk ya around for at least a couple more, just for sport. Just keep sending in the dues money, you sound like just what they IBT wants in its members..low expectations, even lower results and ..the Delusional......kinda like thinking you'll EVER see an Airbus Seat.......

Delusional=you thinking you will be employed six months from now.As for "jerking us around" ? Who did he ask for concessions ? Mmmhmm...Dues money ? $2M for 700 pilots ? You got hosed !

 

[SennaP1]

Good luck F9
Better Luck B6.

 

[SizzleChest]

Viva IBT? You just got snookered and National is JUST NOW figuring that out. You have the WORST CONTRACT in the biz, the LOWEST PAY, NO WORK RULES and SIX YEARS in Section 6? BB is gonna jerk ya around for at least a couple more, just for sport. Just keep sending in the dues money, you sound like just what they IBT wants in its members..low expectations, even lower results and ..the Delusional......kinda like thinking you'll EVER see an Airbus Seat.......

Worst stems from the fact that it's pretty much the oldest one. Mediator is driving now. As has been stated before it only became amendable in 2007 so you can't do math very well but you don't care anyhow. FAPA keeps getting schooled by the big, bad IBT and they can't handle it. do yourself a favor and go read the recent letter to you from IBt which explains a few things as to why things have been the way they have. Who continues to drag feet and ignore the meaning of "final & binding"? (hint: it's a 4-letter acronym with 2 "A's" in it...) BB can try to jerk things around but he sure does need financing and has some back-pedaling to do with the industry. I think the most recent results are pretty good.... i like it when they stick it to the company. As far as you keeping those Bus seats warm, please continue to do so and we can all look fwd. to either C-series or NEO seats. Looks like just 4-days left on the SLI clock.....

 

[Bolo]

Worst stems from the fact that it's pretty much the oldest one. Mediator is driving now. As has been stated before it only became amendable in 2007 so you can't do math very well but you don't care anyhow. FAPA keeps getting schooled by the big, bad IBT and they can't handle it. do yourself a favor and go read the recent letter to you from IBt which explains a few things as to why things have been the way they have. Who continues to drag feet and ignore the meaning of "final & binding"? (hint: it's a 4-letter acronym with 2 "A's" in it...) BB can try to jerk things around but he sure does need financing and has some back-pedaling to do with the industry. I think the most recent results are pretty good.... i like it when they stick it to the company. As far as you keeping those Bus seats warm, please continue to do so and we can all look fwd. to either C-series or NEO seats. Looks like just 4-days left on the SLI clock.....

D-Bag Alert!
Cannot wait to see you on a BUS after you resign your seniority number at RAH. You can yank gear for me anytime D-Bag!

 

[ricj41]

There has to be an airline for those c-series and neo seats to come to genius. Frontier will be shut down long before they even start getting built.

 

[SizzleChest]

D-Bag Alert!
Cannot wait to see you on a BUS after you resign your seniority number at RAH. You can yank gear for me anytime D-Bag!

well now that the SLI timeline has clicked over another milestone and legacy-RAH guys have more furlough protection numbers with their new number, there may still be a chance..... it's cool

 

[ChinaClipper]

If you backpack boyz are so darned smart, why have you all been at RAH so long? 12 years at a REGIONAL PLANTATION? Seems all you are good at is whining about why someone hasn't GIVEN YOU A JOB! Maybe there is a connection??? All that money to the IBThugs at 747 and for what? An industry leading contract? ANY WORK RULES other than the F.A.R's? Just keep lifting that bale and totin' that barge, Massa Bedford needs a wax job in his indoor basketball court...

 

[Big Shinney Jet]

When pilots fight pilots management wins.......

 

[SizzleChest]

If you backpack boyz are so darned smart, why have you all been at RAH so long? 12 years at a REGIONAL PLANTATION? Seems all you are good at is whining about why someone hasn't GIVEN YOU A JOB! Maybe there is a connection??? All that money to the IBThugs at 747 and for what? An industry leading contract? ANY WORK RULES other than the F.A.R's? Just keep lifting that bale and totin' that barge, Massa Bedford needs a wax job in his indoor basketball court...

maybe the right place like SWA, UPS, Fdx hasn't called. Maybe cuz of the associated QOL issues that stem from lost seniority and moving.... here could be any number of things. For so many years RAH was getting bigger until this boner move to buy a couple broke-a$$ airlines. Now there's a mad rush to go places with TONS of guys applying and furlos as well. Nobody here is whining about not being GIVEN A JOB.... dunno where you got that. The IBT has been stepping up for said money as indicated in other posts...I know you read them. As far as your last, thinly-veiled insult to american history.... grow-up gheezer!!!

 

[Bluestreak]

maybe the right place like SWA, UPS, Fdx hasn't called. Maybe cuz of the associated QOL issues that stem from lost seniority and moving.... here could be any number of things. For so many years RAH was getting bigger until this boner move to buy a couple broke-a$$ airlines. Now there's a mad rush to go places with TONS of guys applying and furlos as well. Nobody here is whining about not being GIVEN A JOB.... dunno where you got that. The IBT has been stepping up for said money as indicated in other posts...I know you read them. As far as your last, thinly-veiled insult to american history.... grow-up gheezer!!!

Clipper gave PSA pilots a hard time for the very same thing he just did...When he was at the mighty MESA.Yep.he was raising the bar,defending the profession for good ol' JO.Take a look:

"Geez, The sky really is blue gunrunner, trust me... Mesa has NEVER taken concessions to get ANYTHING! Sellouts? You mean like TAKING concessions like some PSA pilots are negotiating? To get jets? Oh, THAT! I don't know how else to say it but maybe you and B1900D FO should get married...I repeat, Mesa pilots have NEVER taken concessions to get jets. Show it in print or shut up! It never happened... If I read PSA's hotline correctly, PSA is negotiating CONCESSIONS to get jets. BELOW OUR SIX YEAR OLD RATES!!!!"

This clown was at MESA and looks down his nose at anybody ? Bwhahaha-you're a JOKE !

 

[Grey Ghost]

:bomb:Ouch! now that's low!!!

 

[dlzav8tr]

F9 used to be a good AIRLINE to work for. RAH has NEVER been a good COMMUTER to work for. Anybody ( under the age of 50 ) that is still working here in seven years is either crazy or probably has several DUI's.

 

[embraerjetpilot]

Diza. Your mistaken. As for regionals it was one of the better ones to work for.

 

[ChinaClipper]

Dave...

Grey hair and still at RAH? All for the WORST CONTRACT at a REGIONAL??? No progress from the IBT Guido's in SIX YEARS? And you STILL GIVE THEM MONEY???? ON PURPOSE? The Reverand's has a permanent bagboy.... DAVE! BTW My Opwanya still rate your wardrobe?


QUOTE=Bluestreak;2203568]Clipper gave PSA pilots a hard time for the very same thing he just did...When he was at the mighty MESA.Yep.he was raising the bar,defending the profession for good ol' JO.Take a look:

"Geez, The sky really is blue gunrunner, trust me... Mesa has NEVER taken concessions to get ANYTHING! Sellouts? You mean like TAKING concessions like some PSA pilots are negotiating? To get jets? Oh, THAT! I don't know how else to say it but maybe you and B1900D FO should get married...I repeat, Mesa pilots have NEVER taken concessions to get jets. Show it in print or shut up! It never happened... If I read PSA's hotline correctly, PSA is negotiating CONCESSIONS to get jets. BELOW OUR SIX YEAR OLD RATES!!!!"

This clown was at MESA and looks down his nose at anybody ? Bwhahaha-you're a JOKE ![/QUOTE]

 

[ChinaClipper]

Or maybe you are just an dumas?

Like your buddy Dave?
Grey hair and an RAH Uniform....nice.....

maybe the right place like SWA, UPS, Fdx hasn't called. Maybe cuz of the associated QOL issues that stem from lost seniority and moving.... here could be any number of things. For so many years RAH was getting bigger until this boner move to buy a couple broke-a$$ airlines. Now there's a mad rush to go places with TONS of guys applying and furlos as well. Nobody here is whining about not being GIVEN A JOB.... dunno where you got that. The IBT has been stepping up for said money as indicated in other posts...I know you read them. As far as your last, thinly-veiled insult to american history.... grow-up gheezer!!!

 

[hockeypilot44]

Diza. Your mistaken. As for regionals it was one of the better ones to work for.

You keep telling yourself that. The truth is it's not. The reason why people believed this was because the upgrade times were so short. It's one of the few regionals that max first officers out at $37/hour.

 

[blott]

he was talking about Frontier