VOR Standard Service volume legality

[FN FAL]

Read post #13...and all I can say about your post 29 is: "Hmmmm...OK...whatever floats your boat.

I didn't read where you pulled the old switcharoo on us. Don't confuse us by changing topics in the middle of thread like that...start a new thread, it was confusing enough when they switched Dicks on "bewitched"...remember when they started that show and Dick York was the husband and then all the sudden Dick Sargent was the husband? It was certainly confusing and a moral dilemma at that.

 

[Bernoulli]

Wheaties? Why would I buy a five dollar box of cereal, made from 10 cents worth of wheat?

And what's up with wheat, anyway?

Wheat, gets mentioned in United States v. Lopez and United States v. Stewart, as if it's jellin like a felon. Jeeze, grow some wheat in your back yard, bake some bread to feed your chillins and next thing you know they make a federal case or fifty out of the fact that you greatly affect interstate commerce by making your own bread. What's up with that? I think it would be smoooooooooth to make your own bread...just don't be having stripes and shoot on your shoulders, because you ain't in charge of this thing (say it like caneman, it reads more funnier that way).

And speaking of being in charge of this thing, what's up with those roller hot dog wieners? My buddy ate two of them on a pit stop one day, got sick and is admitted to the hospital. Next thing you know, he's released from the hospital and the first thing he does is come out of the closet...that's smoooooooth! Was it the roller wieners or the hospital stay? I'd say that them roller wieners greatly affect interstate commerce...but you don't hear no justices citing them in their supreme court cases. Speaking of cases, do you think those roller wieners have all natural cases? Smoooooooth!

Hahahahahahahah...

Based on your posts here I think you're on crack...and caneman thinks he's funny...he far from funny. He's trying real hard though.

 

[FN FAL]

Based on your posts here I think you're on crack...and caneman thinks he's funny...he far from funny. He's trying real hard though.

"Crack, the conerstone of any nutritious breakfast!"

 

[Bernoulli]

When off airway /U, how do I know for sure I'm not within the "Service Volume"?

-mini

Please read the previous posts... #1 (Slant A), #2, #4. we've been there done that. And if you do not have DME (Slant U) then just use your second VOR to triangulate as mentioned above.

 

[Metro752]

this thread is as stupid as the 250/10k thread

 

[Bernoulli]

I found a definition of "Operational Service Volume" on Page 46 of Everything Explained for the professional pilot and his references are (OpSecs A002, B032, B034)
OSV (Operational Service Volume) is that volume of airspace surrounding a navaid which is available for operational use and within which a signal of usable strength exists. Operational service volume includes SSV Standard Service Volume, ESV Expanded Service Volume or any published instrument flight procedure (victor or jet airway, DP, STARS, and IAPs).

So, the answer to my original question is one may navigate LEGALLY to a VOR when the VOR is beyond the SSV Standard Service Volume as long as you can ID it which means you are within the OVS operational Service Volume.

The only intelligent comments were from C425DRIVER. Everyone else who has hijacked this post for their snide dumb comments... you have turned an attempt at an educational post to a circus...you're KOOOOKS.
I'm outa here.

 

[FN FAL]

this thread is as stupid as the 250/10k thread

That answer is easy, just cheat on your altitude by 100 feet and go like the bandit.

 

[gkrangers]

Nothing like a bunch of pilots fighting over the little things...

 

[ptarmigan]

Your OSV definition does not include merely "identifying it". ESV pertains to specific areas where the VOR was flight tested beyond SSV, and the published flight procedures were also specifically flight tested. Absent a flight check by FAA, I do not see where you would have a leg to stand on at the hearing, but you can try it if you like. Reminds me of someone showing up in front of the ALJ with a letter from their FSDO, or even the Region, but FAA AGC Chief Counsel has a different interp. Guess which will be more valuable to you in that hearing room, your letter or a new roll of Charmin? ;-)

I found a definition of "Operational Service Volume" on Page 46 of Everything Explained for the professional pilot and his references are (OpSecs A002, B032, B034)
OSV (Operational Service Volume) is that volume of airspace surrounding a navaid which is available for operational use and within which a signal of usable strength exists. Operational service volume includes SSV Standard Service Volume, ESV Expanded Service Volume or any published instrument flight procedure (victor or jet airway, DP, STARS, and IAPs).

So, the answer to my original question is one may navigate LEGALLY to a VOR when the VOR is beyond the SSV Standard Service Volume as long as you can ID it which means you are within the OVS operational Service Volume.

The only intelligent comments were from C425DRIVER. Everyone else who has hijacked this post for their snide dumb comments... you have turned an attempt at an educational post to a circus...you're KOOOOKS.
I'm outa here.

 

[100LL... Again!]

Doing class I nav:

You can proceed to a VOR from outside of its service volume, provided you are ALWAYS within the service volume of SOME OTHER airways navaid.

Part 91: Have at it.