VOR Standard Service volume legality

[FN FAL]

Thanks for a straight answer. That's what I'm looking for. Do you know by any chance where I can reference operational service volume, or have you only seen it in company ops specs?

Why would that be the "straight" answer...the answer was 121/135. The question was part 91.

 

[satpak77]

my technique to determine service volume is

1) Tune VOR freq

2) Look for flags

3) DONE

 

[FN FAL]

Why would that be the "straight" answer...the answer was 121/135. The question was part 91.

Let me refresh your memory...

Let's say you are 10,000 feet on an IFR flight plan and ATC tells you to fly direct to a high altitude VOR that is greater than 40 NM away. ..IE... you are beyond the Standard Service Volume of the VOR according to the AIM. You tune and identify it, center the CDI...all looks good...BUT...Because you are not on a published route and you are beyond the Standard Service Volume of 40 NM and you are a slant Alpha (IE...no RNAV or GPS)...are you allowed to accept the clearance or legally should you remind ATC you are a slant A and request a vector until able? Refer to AIM 1-1-8(a). I'm looking for legality here rather than practicality. Practiaclly...yeah...just center the CDI and go to the VOR... but is it legal if you are beyond the Standard Service Volume?Thanks in advance for all sincere responces.

Not one single mention of carrying passengers for hire.

 

[DrewBlows]

Part 135 and 121 have been covered.

There is no regulation (part 91) that requires you to be in the standard service volume of a VOR to use it. So...if you can ID it you can use it. Don't make it more difficult than it needs to be.

 

[FN FAL]

Part 135 and 121 have been covered.

There is no regulation (part 91) that requires you to be in the standard service volume of a VOR to use it. So...if you can ID it you can use it. Don't make it more difficult than it needs to be.

Why would part 135 and 121 BE covered, it was a part 91 question. In that case, all part 135 and 121 answers would have been...www.wronglikeabigdog.com.

Or what we say in the real flying world, "useless information".

 

[FN FAL]

Let's say you are 10,000 feet on an IFR flight plan and ATC tells you to fly direct to a high altitude VOR that is greater than 40 NM away. ..IE... you are beyond the Standard Service Volume of the VOR according to the AIM. You tune and identify it, center the CDI...all looks good...BUT...Because you are not on a published route and you are beyond the Standard Service Volume of 40 NM and you are a slant Alpha (IE...no RNAV or GPS)...are you allowed to accept the clearance or legally should you remind ATC you are a slant A and request a vector until able? Refer to AIM 1-1-8(a). I'm looking for legality here rather than practicality. Practiaclly...yeah...just center the CDI and go to the VOR... but is it legal if you are beyond the Standard Service Volume?Thanks in advance for all sincere responces.

Does anyone see passengers for hire or cargo for hire in this question? Does anyone see scheduled passenger flying in this question?

So why then is it that passenger for hire material is covered in any answer? Cheesus crust...let me get out my 135 manual and see if there's an answer for this question in there for part 91 flying....nope.

 

[satpak77]

ENOUGH ON THIS THREAD

STOP THE MADNESS

 

[FN FAL]

ENOUGH ON THIS THREAD

STOP THE MADNESS

What is this madness?

 

[FN FAL]

An airplane is in the evening wind
On board is a man with his child as well
They sit secure and warm
and so they fall into the trap of sleep
In three hours they will be there
for mama's birthday [2]
The view is good the sky is clear
Onwards, onwards into destruction
We must live until we die
Humans don't belong in the sky
So the lord in Heaven calls
his sons to the wind
Bring me this human child
The child has still lost time
Then an echo jumps to his ears
A muffled rumbling drives the night
and the driver of the clouds laughs
He shakes the human cargo awake
Onwards, onwards into destruction
We must live until we die
And the child says to the father
Don't you hear the thunder
That's the king of all the winds
He wants me to become his child
From the clouds falls a choir
which crawls into the little ear
Come here, stay here
We'll be good to you
Come here, stay here
We are your brothers
The storm embraces the flying machine
The pressure falls quickly in the cabin
A muffled rumbling drives the night
In panic the human cargo screams
Onwards, onwards into destruction
We must live until we die
And to God the child pleads
Heaven take back the wind
Bring us unharmed to earth
From the clouds falls a choir
which crawls into the little ear
Come here, stay here
We'll be good to you
Come here, stay here
We are your brothers
The father is now holding onto the child
and has pressed it tightly against himself
He doesn't notice its difficulty in breathing
But fear knows no mercy
So with his arms the father
squeezes the soul from the child
Which takes its place upon the wind and sings:
Come here, stay here
We'll be good to you
Come here, stay here
We are your brothers

here is the Rammstein version of the question and answer.

 

[Bernoulli]

Why would that be the "straight" answer...the answer was 121/135. The question was part 91.

Read post #13...and all I can say about your post 29 is: "Hmmmm...OK...whatever floats your boat.