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stratus72

stratus72

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I had a Virgin America Captain on my jumpseat the other day and he said they were going to start furloughing in the sept to oct time frame. Is there any truth to this?
 
I asked HR and they expect to start running classes again in the fall.
 
People just hate to see another carrier doing well...sad.
 
LoveGun said:
Talked to the CP two days ago. VA will be hiring pilots in August.
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You guys crack me up. A guy in the jumpseat told me; a check pilot told me; HR told me; the CP told me; the training dept told me; the CEO told us....and you believe it!!! Nobody is going to tell you what is really happening....just ask the JetBlue pilots hired a few years ago how long upgrade has been....they were told by HR, CP, CEO and so on that it would be 2.5 years to make captain on the bus and look where they are. Alaska management has continually told the pilots things that did not pan out...more planes, more pilots...blah blah blah. That is all I hear now from all the management types....blah blah blah!!! Trust me, just go tone deaf to anything you hear about the future from anyone and you will be more satisfied when nothing happens. Didn't the Skybus pilots get told everything was just peachy before showing up for work then get the ACARS message that the gig was up? That might be a time to believe them.
 
A guy asked if we were furloughing, and we got it from the horses mouth that no, we were actually hiring in the fall. Nobody said we believed them, just trying to give you some information. Do whatever you want with that information. Believe, don't believe, or shove it. I couldn't care less.
 
jayme said:
A guy asked if we were furloughing, and we got it from the horses mouth that no, we were actually hiring in the fall. Nobody said we believed them, just trying to give you some information. Do whatever you want with that information. Believe, don't believe, or shove it. I couldn't care less.
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Come on. Taking the time to reply and telling me to shove it shows me you care.
 
Mamma said:
Come on. Taking the time to reply and telling me to shove it shows me you care.
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I don't care what you do with the information. I do care about telling you to suck it. We were just trying to help a guy who might be on the street in a couple months.
 
jayme said:
I don't care what you do with the information. I do care about telling you to suck it. We were just trying to help a guy who might be on the street in a couple months.
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So now instead of me shoving it you want me to suck it? I guess I will assume you are not a commuter for Virgin and live right in San Francisco. Not that there is anything wrong with that...to each their own.
 
Mamma said:
You guys crack me up. A guy in the jumpseat told me; a check pilot told me; HR told me; the CP told me; the training dept told me; the CEO told us....and you believe it!!! Nobody is going to tell you what is really happening....just ask the JetBlue pilots hired a few years ago how long upgrade has been....they were told by HR, CP, CEO and so on that it would be 2.5 years to make captain on the bus and look where they are. Alaska management has continually told the pilots things that did not pan out...more planes, more pilots...blah blah blah. That is all I hear now from all the management types....blah blah blah!!! Trust me, just go tone deaf to anything you hear about the future from anyone and you will be more satisfied when nothing ns. Didn't the Skybus pilots get told everything was just peachy before showing up for work then get the ACARS message that the gig was up? That might be a time to believe them.
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I never said i believed him, thus the question! Would it really surprise anyone to hear that another airline is furloughing? Please, don't lecture us as if you're the all knowing pilot. I've been through a 89 day strike, pay cuts, furlough, etc.. and I know the game better than most. RELAX!
 
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stratus72 said:
I never said i believed him, thus the question! Would it really surprise anyone to hear that another airline is furloughing? Please, don't lecture us as if you're the all knowing pilot. I've been through a 89 day strike, pay cuts, furlough, etc.. and I know the game better than most. RELAX!
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Huh. You know the game better than most. That is a bold statement on an anonymous bulletin board considering you have no idea who you are talking to. What I am saying is, don't take as fact anything you hear from a guy in the jumpseat, your crashpad, training center or anyone else for that matter. If you are the expert "game" player that you claim to be then you know I am dead on. You sound like one of those know-it-alls who does not like to be told anything: "Please don't lecture me on how to fly this plane! I already know everything...." Maybe you should be lectured to. Now please relax.
 
Mamma said:
Huh. You know the game better than most. That is a bold statement on an anonymous bulletin board considering you have no idea who you are talking to. What I am saying is, don't take as fact anything you hear from a guy in the jumpseat, your crashpad, training center or anyone else for that matter. If you are the expert "game" player that you claim to be then you know I am dead on. You sound like one of those know-it-alls who does not like to be told anything: "Please don't lecture me on how to fly this plane! I already know everything...." Maybe you should be lectured to. Now please relax.
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Wow, I think you need to go back and read your original post to my simple thread/question. You lectured us about wising up...like we're a bunch a private pilots who know nothing about the airline game. Then you have the nerve to tell me how i think. You're a perfect example of a sad adult who has the mentality of an angry 15 year old. Grow the hell up! Yup, you really "zinged" me. I'll go to the corner now...you are far wiser than I or the others on this thread. I have far more important things to do than battle with a dimwit like yourself. Can't we ever have a single thread on flight info that doesn't include an @$$ looking to stir the pot?
 
stratus72 said:
Wow, I think you need to go back and read your original post to my simple thread/question. You lectured us about wising up...like we're a bunch a private pilots who know nothing about the airline game. Then you have the nerve to tell me how i think. You're a perfect example of a sad adult who has the mentality of an angry 15 year old. Grow the hell up! Yup, you really "zinged" me. I'll go to the corner now...you are far wiser than I or the others on this thread. I have far more important things to do than battle with a dimwit like yourself. Can't we ever have a single thread on flight info that doesn't include an @$$ looking to stir the pot?
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You should probably relax a little and get off your high horse. An ego like yours is not a good thing in this business and a "professional" like yourself should not resort to name-calling. There is nothing to get so upset over and if you are interested I am not angry in the slightest. I am a very happy 15-year old! But I am dismayed that such an educated guy like yourself is flying off the handle over such a trivial post. I am sure you are under a lot of stress right now and that may be why. That being the case, I offer my apology. Maybe my tone was bad in my original post but it was the message that I was trying to convey....don't believe what you are hearing today because 1) Most are wrong. 2) The environment is rapidly changing 3) I don't trust management. If you have been reading the posts on VA you would have garnered that they are going out of business; things are going perfectly; they are growing; they are shrinking; they are making money; they are bleeding like a stuck pig; they are hiring in the summer; they are hiring in the fall; they are furloughing. You get my point here. I guess I could have done without the "You guys crack me up comment" and for that I also apologize.
 
veneratio said:
who cares, they pay ********************ty anyways.
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Some guys from ATA, Aloha and a few other pilots facing the unemployment line care.

How many pilots from shut down airlines has your company hired lately?

Don't look back but that mighty EMB-145 you proudly claim on your profile is going to be extinct pretty soon. Hope you can keep a job.
 
Ralph Cramden said:
Don't look back but that mighty EMB-145 you proudly claim on your profile is going to be extinct pretty soon. Hope you can keep a job.
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And your display of proudly displayed aircraft is any different. Who cares what you have flown? From an EMB to an impressive 320 the job is all the same anyway. Go from point A to B without being a lawn dart. Everyone thinks their airplane is the hardest or most impressive to fly. All that matters is the pay check and QOL. The pay at VA needs improvement.
 
vixin said:
And your display of proudly displayed aircraft is any different. Who cares what you have flown? From an EMB to an impressive 320 the job is all the same anyway. Go from point A to B without being a lawn dart. Everyone thinks their airplane is the hardest or most impressive to fly. All that matters is the pay check and QOL. The pay at VA needs improvement.
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The EMB-145 will be long gone before the A320. I do find it amusing that an Expressjet FO is slamming a company that he wouldn't even be competitive for a job at. And if flying the EMB is just the same as flying anything else then I am sure Chuck Yeager here will be happy to finish his career in it. :rolleyes:

As for the pay....Do you know/remember what the pay at SWA was then they started? No where near what they are now. There was a reason SWA was coined the "Wal-Mart" airline.
 
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I hurt your feelings about the 320 I am sooo sorry. Not really! Chucky isnt all that special...most could accomplish what he did. Heck most can accomplish anything they put their minds to. AS far as SWA pay like I said...I dont know 100 times. I dont care what they paid then. If they paid that now I wouldnt work at SWA. Just like I wouldnt work at VA for that low pay. Some will some wont. It is the choice some make. I guess I hurt your feelings about one little statement about pay. Again I am not sorry. Pretty impressive list of equipment there Chuck wannabe. It just proves my point. Thanks LMAO. The 747 is soo coooool. LMAO!
 
Vixin, you miss the whole point of my EMB dig. It is the size and fuel efficiency I was disparaging, not how hard to fly or how "cool" it is.

Yes, I have a lot of time in little planes, and now know the bus is easier to fly than the CRJ or EMB. The only plane I've flown before the bus with a future is the Dash 8, not because it's so cool, but it sips gas for it's intended mission.

Thanks for stoping by. And how many ATA & Aloha guys has your company hired?
 

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