Virgin America - April 14th class.

[popgoesbubble]

come clean and tell everybody on these boards that JetBlue the major airline just drives you nuts. Oh, LC please do yourself an additional favor and correct your profile because you and I both know you were never typed on the CRJ.

You Might Be a Major Airline FAGDEC but Not From a Pay, Retirement and QOL Stand point! It's funny I was on an Overnight in PBI about 2 1/2 weeks ago and out with a Jetblue FA that I Know and her crew and I was amazed to listen to the crews just bad mouth SWA about this and that and how JetBlue was goinna kick there ass as the # 1 LCC Funny thing is all the pilots had there app's in with SWA so it was more a Jelous bitch fest if you ask me!

So FAGDEC what's up with that 737 Type Oh let me guess your one of the Higher Power Rejects that didn't make the cut at SWA and are now at Mesa I mean Jetblue! It was funny listen to all you guys bad mouth Mesa in the days but it's ok to go work for JetBlue which is Mesa to the Majors.

Hey I hear VA doesn't make there Pilots Fold seat Belts and pick up trash nor does SWA so the next time a JetBlue pilot wants to say that Netjets pilots have to kiss ass and clean the planes or that VA or Spirit pay sucks better take a good look in the mirror next time your bent over folding those belts or standing in the cabin giving that stupid pilot announcement to the pax! at least were getting Paid to vaccum the plane which is more then I can say for you guys.

Nice try on trying to figure me out! WOW you got me Scared better go back and do your homework Homo last I looked my airmen cert said CL65 on it under ratings. keep up the good work of playing Tony the Tiger and telling everyone that Jetblue is Grrrrrrrrrrrrr-Rate! when you and I know you'd walk in a minute if SWA or DAL called which is why you went and paid for that 737 type and are still updating your App!

 

[FADEC]

You Might Be a Major Airline FAGDEC but Not From a Pay, Retirement and QOL Stand point! It's funny I was on an Overnight in PBI about 2 1/2 weeks ago and out with a Jetblue FA that I Know and her crew and I was amazed to listen to the crews just bad mouth SWA about this and that and how JetBlue was goinna kick there ass as the # 1 LCC Funny thing is all the pilots had there app's in with SWA so it was more a Jelous bitch fest if you ask me!

So FAGDEC what's up with that 737 Type Oh let me guess your one of the Higher Power Rejects that didn't make the cut at SWA and are now at Mesa I mean Jetblue! It was funny listen to all you guys bad mouth Mesa in the days but it's ok to go work for JetBlue which is Mesa to the Majors.

Hey I hear VA doesn't make there Pilots Fold seat Belts and pick up trash nor does SWA so the next time a JetBlue pilot wants to say that Netjets pilots have to kiss ass and clean the planes or that VA or Spirit pay sucks better take a good look in the mirror next time your bent over folding those belts or standing in the cabin giving that stupid pilot announcement to the pax! at least were getting Paid to vaccum the plane which is more then I can say for you guys.

Nice try on trying to figure me out! WOW you got me Scared better go back and do your homework Homo last I looked my airmen cert said CL65 on it under ratings. keep up the good work of playing Tony the Tiger and telling everyone that Jetblue is Grrrrrrrrrrrrr-Rate! when you and I know you'd walk in a minute if SWA or DAL called which is why you went and paid for that 737 type and are still updating your App!

What can I say. You are still truely the village idiot. Do you want to go out with me on a date?
I am a very patient individual and I’ll be more than happy to give you English lessons so you don’t have to butcher all your posts.

 

[Dizel8]

You Might Be a Major Airline FAGDEC but Not From a Pay, Retirement and QOL Stand point! It's funny I was on an Overnight in PBI about 2 1/2 weeks ago and out with a Jetblue FA that I Know and her crew and I was amazed to listen to the crews just bad mouth SWA about this and that and how JetBlue was goinna kick there ass as the # 1 LCC Funny thing is all the pilots had there app's in with SWA so it was more a Jelous bitch fest if you ask me!

If that truly happened, then I guess it just goes to show, that there are fools in all companies

Oh let me guess your one of the Higher Power Rejects that didn't make the cut at SWA and are now at Mesa I mean Jetblue! It was funny listen to all you guys bad mouth Mesa in the days but it's ok to go work for JetBlue which is Mesa to the Majors.

I guess you should be happy jetblue took that spot, after all, it was SWA who was holding the honor for the longest time!

or standing in the cabin giving that stupid pilot announcement to the pax!

You may not believe this, but a lot of passengers like to see the crew and particularily when things are not going as planned, ie delays or mx. They pay the bills, so if hat makes them happy, why not!

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

I'd reject someone on the Scablist in a New York second.

I have never and would never refuse an authorized jumpseater. I think its extremely poor practice to use the jumpseat as a political tool. Just my .02

 

[zkmayo]

I wouldnt tangle with FADEC. You dont know who he knows in the IRA

 

[mvedepo]

I'd reject someone on the Scablist in a New York second.

I can justify not taking a scab.. However too many people are calling pilots from non-unioned low cost carriers scabs. They obviously have no idea what a scab is.

 

[FADEC]

I wouldnt tangle with FADEC. You dont know who he knows in the IRA

Brad. As the boys say back in Belfast, we don't make threats we just carry out orders!!

 

[Longhorn]

FADEC.....very funny and very true!!

 

[Laboule]

Ira

True Irishmen know that Belfast is not part of real Ireland...it is part of the UK and its people are Brit subjects, not Irish.

 

[FADEC]

True Irishmen know that Belfast is not part of real Ireland...it is part of the UK and its people are Brit subjects, not Irish.

Belfast is and always has been part of the island off Ireland. I was born and raised in Newry Co Down and carry an Irish passport in addition to my US one. Whilst eligible to carry a British passport I have never considered myself a British subject so I don't have one. Laboule, whats your point.

 

[LaGarbage Man]

I think his point was to get you to drop your Guiness and post a response here. I suspect that you were able to avoid his evil plan and type with one hand though.

 

[Laboule]

Belfast has not always been a part of the UK. England INVADED 400 years ago, along with its classic raping and pillaging. The struggle continues today - luckily there are only 6 more counties to liberate. That's great you have apparently snubbed UK citizenship - I wish more of your Unionist neighbors would do the same.

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

True Irishmen know that Belfast is not part of real Ireland...it is part of the UK and its people are Brit subjects, not Irish.

Which also explains why Shorts are so damn ugly!

 

[Bavarian Chef]

I know I should take my fair share of responsibility in hijacking threads and denounce them outright, but this one is actually educational. Please, continue. May I suggest a treatise on Disraeli and his rivalry with Gladstone or maybe Wilsonian politics juxtaposed against the current Bush Administration? Spelling mistakes and other oddities contained in the Magna Carta? The culinary discoveries of the Welsh?

Please, feed me. 18 Skybus threads just ain't cutting it.

 

[curtis46]

I thought you guys were one big happy family by now;woa hapen?

 

[Wheres the van?]

Hey Fadec,great news JBs new lodge in MCO has agreed to honour Orange Counties contribution to the development of the site,the new lodge will simply be known as the Orange Lodge scheduled to open Jul 12th 2009.The avionics trainees at Live tv have even signed up for a parade in its honour these apprentice boys sure love to march.Slan!

 

[Green Banana]

Avondale Partners airline analyst Bob McAdoo, meanwhile, predicted in a research note Monday that upstart Virgin America -- which is privately held and therefore releases less operating information than publicly owned carriers -- could be the next casualty.

McAdoo cited preliminary filings with the Department of Transportation that suggest the carrier is rapidly losing money, and flew planes that were considerably emptier than some of its competitors through the end of last year.

``We caution that these estimates are based on limited (Transportation Department) filings and may be overly pessimistic,'' he wrote. ``However, given the ownership structure of Virgin America ... we see parallels between Virgin and the three failed airlines.''

Tic, Tic, Tic..........

 

[mvedepo]

Avondale Partners airline analyst Bob McAdoo, meanwhile, predicted in a research note Monday that upstart Virgin America -- which is privately held and therefore releases less operating information than publicly owned carriers -- could be the next casualty.

McAdoo cited preliminary filings with the Department of Transportation that suggest the carrier is rapidly losing money, and flew planes that were considerably emptier than some of its competitors through the end of last year.

``We caution that these estimates are based on limited (Transportation Department) filings and may be overly pessimistic,'' he wrote. ``However, given the ownership structure of Virgin America ... we see parallels between Virgin and the three failed airlines.''

Tic, Tic, Tic..........

Lets see...

• Just under $200 million in the bank
• Accelerated aircraft acquisition
• Hiring 20+ pilots a month indefinitely
• Building a Virgin America Training center to include sims
• Had a load factor last weekend of 94%. Avg loads have been high 80% and we haven't started advertising yet.

Yeah I think we'll be done in a week.

 

[FlyFastLiveSlow]

Pop, what planet do you live on. Please, for the love off god will you just use a spell checker before you post. Infact, why don't you just stop posting as your contributions make absolutely no sense. You truely are the village idiot.

Did you honestly just call someone out to use spell check? You might also want to use a grammar editor next time before clicking "submit".

 

[skiandsurf]

Lets see...

• Just under $200 million in the bank
• Accelerated aircraft acquisition
• Hiring 20+ pilots a month indefinitely
• Building a Virgin America Training center to include sims
• Had a load factor last weekend of 94%. Avg loads have been high 80% and we haven't started advertising yet.

Yeah I think we'll be done in a week.

I have heard that your loads are terrible. I dont have specific numbers, but from 1 of your captains, the loads are not good.

 

[Green Banana]

Lets see...

• Just under $200 million in the bank
• Accelerated aircraft acquisition
• Hiring 20+ pilots a month indefinitely
• Building a Virgin America Training center to include sims
• Had a load factor last weekend of 94%. Avg loads have been high 80% and we haven't started advertising yet.

Yeah I think we'll be done in a week.

You really are drinking that red koolaid!

That money is not yours. It is venture capitalist's and can be pulled at any time they think they might not get a return on investment.

Acquiring aircraft and hiring means nothing. Many airlines that shut down were having classes on the same day and still had many deliveries in the future.

High load factor means nothing. Are you kidding? VA is charging $77. Of course your load factor is high. the problem is you are not ever close to covering your costs.

If everything is so Rosy Red, Why is your company pleading to the government to not release its numbers to the public. Let me quote them
"would cause Virgin America to suffer

substantial competitive harm because the local nature of traffic in its point-to-point markets and​

the limited number of aircraft types operated"

You are FAR from profitable and stable. I am not picking a fight. Just stating facts.


http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocumentDetail&o=09000064803fae7d

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Lets see...

• Just under $200 million in the bank
• Accelerated aircraft acquisition
• Hiring 20+ pilots a month indefinitely
• Building a Virgin America Training center to include sims
• Had a load factor last weekend of 94%. Avg loads have been high 80% and we haven't started advertising yet.

Yeah I think we'll be done in a week.

Load factor is almost meaningless -- check your yield.

 

[Green Banana]

Load factor is almost meaningless -- check your yield.

Ooops, Can't do that. It may cause harm to the company if people knew their yield...

 

[Q400 Gear Bitch]

Lets see...

• Just under $200 million in the bank
• Accelerated aircraft acquisition
• Hiring 20+ pilots a month indefinitely
• Building a Virgin America Training center to include sims
• Had a load factor last weekend of 94%. Avg loads have been high 80% and we haven't started advertising yet.

Yeah I think we'll be done in a week.

You forgot the best part: NO HAT! NO TIES! All right!!

 

[Q400 Gear Bitch]

If everything is so Rosy Red, Why is your company pleading to the government to not release its numbers to the public. Let me quote them
"would cause Virgin America to suffer

substantial competitive harm because the local nature of traffic in its point-to-point markets and​

the limited number of aircraft types operated"

You are FAR from profitable and stable. I am not picking a fight. Just stating facts.


http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocumentDetail&o=09000064803fae7d

I dunno dude. It seems like this is a smart move for VA. Keep your cards close so your competitors have to guess at how much you're making especially considering the size of VA vs. it's competitors. 'gutsiest move I ever saw mav.'

 

[mvedepo]

I have heard that your loads are terrible. I dont have specific numbers, but from 1 of your captains, the loads are not good.

Not true. You can go on the VA website and look at the loads. The average is 84%-86%.

 

[mvedepo]

Ooops, Can't do that. It may cause harm to the company if people knew their yield...

I take it your interview didn't go well and now Virgin sucks.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Lets see...

• Just under $200 million in the bank
• Accelerated aircraft acquisition
• Hiring 20+ pilots a month indefinitely
• Building a Virgin America Training center to include sims
• Had a load factor last weekend of 94%. Avg loads have been high 80% and we haven't started advertising yet.

Yeah I think we'll be done in a week.

You know, I looked at this list again -- you'd think VA was your first airline or something. LFs? Hiring? Aircraft orders? Building a ... uh ... building?

That's your plan? Get 'em?

Those things you mentioned guarantee absolutely nothing. They sound like talking points from your VP of Flight Ops.

Branson is probably the only thing that you can hang your hat on.

 

[spinproof]

You know, I looked at this list again -- you'd think VA was your first airline or something. LFs? Hiring? Aircraft orders? Building a ... uh ... building?

That's your plan? Get 'em?

Those things you mentioned guarantee absolutely nothing. They sound like talking points from your VP of Flight Ops.

Branson is probably the only thing that you can hang your hat on.

Interesting...what do you hang your hat on???

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Interesting...what do you hang your hat on???

Grey Goose and Red Bull. Don't forget land. Land is the only thing valuable these days.

Oh you mean jetblue? I have a 6 month plan. I think I have at least 6 months at jb. Every month that goes by, I extend the plan 1 month. We ain't by any means outta the woods.

No one should be cocky these days (ahem, VA).