VA may get Dallas Love gates......

[slaquer5]

As a SWA employee I'm happy to see them make a run at those gates. Southwest might have to step it up a bit. Competition is great thing!

+1

Very well said .

 

[nwaf16dude]

Ok, so DL gets the LUV gates when we buy VA next year.

Only kidding a little.

 

[canyonblue]

Just thinking -
You're a SWA rookie- the ship ain't gonna sink or swim based on your opinion of things- which are.... "New"

Exactly why he needs to STFU. Go tell your Chief Pilot your feelings, word for word from your posts. If you feel that you can't, then you truly need to STFU.

 

[waveflyer]

I'm actually not saying to STFU. Dude has a right to his opinion-
But it's always best to have a little experience in what your opining about first-
I've been at 6 airlines- it's wiser form to get in, plug away, and really catch the lay of the land before going nuts about things-
Just bc you're here through acquisition doesn't make that any less wise.
Especially with SWA- 6 airlines man- SWA is different- even at it's worst.
Relax a little - do what you can to take care of your crew and te employees working your flights and let the rest go for a bit.
Nobody's satisfied with how this winter has gone

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

So that's what you've been told about him. If he's so great, why is he no longer in flt. ops and now in a third rate new position? Flight ops is listening to people but I'm not sure it's SWAPA or RSW pilots.

 

[Busdriver320]

Obviously SWA has a huge incentive to outbid anyone for the gates, IF they are allowed to bid.

I have no inclination to research this, but a VX capt who lives in Dallas mentioned on the private VX forum that SW was specifically limited to their existing gates as part of the repeal of the Wright Amdmt. If that's true I'd say there's no way SW is going to get those gates.

 

[Saluki Dawg]

Not true.

 

[NEDude]

The SNA move was a complete disaster by management. We specifically pulled out of a profitable SNA to deploy those assets on a disastrous YYZ move.

 

[Full of LUV]

Really?

We need more of you? We need more pilots who whine and bitch incessantly? Who do nothing but denigrate our product on a public forum ("our product is crap!"), with every opportunity they get? That's what we need? Can you explain how that will help anything?

We as pilots ARE aware of the problems our airline faces (on-time, baggage, etc.). And no, we don't think that those issues are "okay." But I'm pretty sure that the way for pilots to address them is by working with the company, and showing how specific issues may be addressed. Give them a frontline view, as it were. Seeing as how we don't write the checks, and can't just snap our fingers and make operational changes. Responsible leaders act that way.

And you know what? It has an effect. After the January MDW meltdown, VPOps Van de Ven blamed the weather and new part 117 rules as the "culprit." The union immediately took them to task, privately and without fanfare, and then presented them with a report from the frontlines, with input from 1.500 pilots, explaining what actually happened and why things broke down. Guess what? The company agreed and changed tacks. They've created a new office, staffed by a pilot (Chuck Magill, formerly VPFltOps) to oversee and address operational issues noted and experienced by crews as they happen. In other words, they listened to us. They've also changed the way calculate turn times and connection times throughout the day to allow for contingencies that frontline employees see, but that Dallas managers may not see (although this large change in flow planning won't happen until late May or June, due to lead time in scheduling and selling flights). This is to address "ripple delays" from waiting for slow connections. Don't know that this will solve all our operational issues (we still need to address ramp staffing), but it's definitely a start.

On the other hand, maybe you're right; maybe the answer is to just complain and moan on anonymous forums, like whiny little bitches, and hope that GK and VdV happen to read FI in their spare time. Maybe that'll produce better results.

Bubba

Bubba,
That was a good synopsis of what SWA is doing to address OPS issues, and a major rebuttal to "just thinking". That comes off much more intelligent than just telling him to shut up because he is willing to verbalize what many may think but not write. The STFU crowd is just like the rest of our PC culture in that you can't say anything that does not agree with the current koolaid flow or you are a heretic, hater or some kind of a 'phobe.
LUV

 

[Flyer1015]

Confident in their success? You do realize they have yet to make money?

FY 2013 should be a net profit.

 

[Flyer1015]

And that he's touting two former AA managers that helped American into bankruptcy, but left before the shoe could hit the ground. I'm not sure Carty or Cush are anything to get excited about. And the CFO is a disaster.

And to your line of thinking regarding the $49 fare, what's to keep SW from lowering the fare on the VA routes out of DAL? The Orange Co remark still stands. Unbelievable wealthy passengers that want to travel. It's tough to NOT make money in SNA. ie, cash cow.

I hope it works out for them, but historically it doesn't look stellar.

SNA's lift was funneled for DFW flights. Anyway, the guy leading the charge for this direction used to work at Alaska and WestJet, where he helped create their current robust route structures. Give this guy a chance.

 

[NEDude]

SNA's lift was funneled for DFW flights. Anyway, the guy leading the charge for this direction used to work at Alaska and WestJet, where he helped create their current robust route structures. Give this guy a chance.

Incorrect. SNA lift was re-directed for Toronto and later MCO. SNA ended at the end of May 2010 and Toronto began June 23, 2010. DFW did not start until Dec 1, 2010, more than six months after SNA was suspended. Lift for DFW was supplied by the Jazzera Aircraft (N639VA-N642VA) which arrived in the second half of 2010.

""Despite our relatively strong performance at SNA, given our new fleet plan and network prospects, we've made the decision to focus on the immediate long-haul opportunities that the Orlando and Toronto markets provide." - David Cush, May 2010.

Source: http://www.ocregister.com/articles/service-239886-virgin-airport.html

 

[canyonblue]

Bubba,
The STFU crowd is just like the rest of our PC culture in that you can't say anything that does not agree with the current koolaid flow or you are a heretic, hater or some kind of a 'phobe.
LUV

I don't have the time to deal with idiots like that, nothing but one long Bitchfest. He is entitled to his opinion as am I, it's the reason for his ranting that is more of a pain in the a$$. And it's more than obvious to most of us.