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Please stop. You're going to hurt yourself.
You're wrong again junior. Airlines are born with investors yes with deep pockets and then as the airline gets moving through a good business plan, marketing and growth. The revenue it generates allows it to become self sustaining and profitable.
Your case is the constant infusion of Branson's own money to stay afloat. If he quit subsidizing your airline it would fail.
Is that all you can come up with junior?
The more you spew your dribble the more moronic you make yourself to be.
Your airline sucks, your disco shirt sucks and your pay still sucks. Keep huffin and puffin it's not going to change those facts.
Is that all you can come up with junior?
The more you spew your dribble the more moronic you make yourself to be.
Your airline sucks, your disco shirt sucks and your pay still sucks. Keep huffin and puffin it's not going to change those facts.
Please stop. You're going to hurt yourself.
You're wrong again junior. Airlines are born with investors yes with deep pockets and then as the airline gets moving through a good business plan, marketing and growth. The revenue it generates allows it to become self sustaining and profitable.
Your case is the constant infusion of Branson's own money to stay afloat. If he quit subsidizing your airline it would fail.
I under stand everyones point. However, in 06 I had an opportunity to go to Allegiant but for reasons that need not be discussed I chose not to and at the time didn't worry to much about it. Back in those days it wasn't until your 9th year I believe that a captain would go over $100 per hr and they only topped at $103. Now the top pay is $153 (still needs work but getting there). I think it is unrealistic to think a new company is going to start with industry leading payrates. Initially they will start low and over time they will come up and it is up to the pilots to try and help that cause along. Right now however, VA's first couple years pay beat out UAL, US Airways (east), and Continental's. Granted VA contract tops out much lower, but last I recall Southwest was not always one of the highest paid pilots and was citicized for their pay. Now thousands of pilots would love to work for Southwest. Right now what our careers need is solidarity to try and retake back our lives one company at a time. I would have a problem with VA guys if they were screwing over the Spirit pilots or any other pilot that was trying to make a stand, but they are not and last I checked they were supporting them. I know VA has new payrates coming out, soon to be available on APC, so lets just wait and see what time brings. I know it won't be a significant increase but for now at least it is an increase and it was done without a union. However, I am hoping those in a position to will do what's right and follow the spirit pilot's example and stand united. My 2 cents, good luck to us all!
Knock it off with the name calling and the profanity or you're going to get a FI vacation.
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Remember that even though you can ‘dress up a pig’, in the end, a pig is still a pig.
Yeah good luck to 'em but your pay is still sh8t.
VA's pay does not beat CAL in the first couple of years, only in the first year. Don't forget CAL has many 737-800, 900 aircraft so second year pay is closer to 67 dollars. This pay is very low and will hopefully change very soon !
Yes, good thing we can actually get things done within days as opposed to years by not having a union. Sometimes unions are needed, at this time it is not.
Cautiously optimistic
If you were a 4 year FO at VA and upgraded to CA, would you be paid as a 4yr CA or a first year CA?
1st year. And don't forget they use MERIT upgrade.
YEAH! That $105 Airbus Capt. pay rate is looking pretty good! There are Regional RJ jobs that pay more than that. And in ONLY 3 more YEARS the FIRST guy hired will top out at $120.
Nice.