UX off the runway in ottawa

[Dave's kid]

This is the second TSA overrun in YOW and it seems to be brake-related again.

Here's the story on the first one:

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/aviation/2004/a04o0188/a04o0188.pdf

Not entirely brake related. Had they not not been high, fast, Flaps 22, and touched down half way down the 8000' long runway, the first one would have stopped before the end of the runway.

 

[GCAP]

I just read the report on the first overrun.
Do these guys still have jobs???
Erased the CVR???
Amazing!!

 

[nerjdriver]

I just read the report on the first overrun.
Do these guys still have jobs???
Erased the CVR???
Amazing!!

Do you honestly expect any more from TSA?

 

[johndt]

Do you honestly expect any more from TSA?

easy, man. The TSA pilot group are good people and good pilots in general. We struggle with bad apples and pilots make bad decisions like at any other airline. I'm proud of the women and men that I fly with at TSA.

 

[Rough67]

Do you honestly expect any more from TSA?

Em.. can you elaborate on this? If you are trying to insult me or some of my best friends that used to work there (or still do) drop me a pm so we can discuss..

 

[CX880]

Looks like they used runway 25. They had an extra 2k to play with with the other one.

 

[johndt]

Looks like they used runway 25. They had an extra 2k to play with with the other one.

i doubt anyone here would have refused to accept a landing clearance for 25

 

[CX880]

i doubt anyone here would have refused to accept a landing clearance for 25

Eyewitness reports say that it was heavy rain and runway was slick all day. You have no TRs. At that point it's like landing a minivan in a heavy downpour with no ABS. 2nd TSA jet overrun both with no TRs, just saying...

 

[johndt]

Eyewitness reports say that it was heavy rain and runway was slick all day. You have no TRs. At that point it's like landing a minivan in a heavy downpour with no ABS. 2nd TSA jet overrun both with no TRs, just saying...

So you would have refused to land on runway 25 assuming you had plenty of performance? Let me help you, you would have attempted the same landing. It's easy to second-guess every decision, but if they had the performance, the decision to land on 25 is ok.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Good reading the Canadian report. They, like many other civilised countries do not point the finger. The US, well, I won't be surprised if the next regional fatality puts surviving crew in the clink. Personally, i'd use this kind of opportunity to give the finger to mgmt. And move on to something more humane.