USAPA's Real Motivation

[waveflyer]

I'm also curious why you'd think that ALPA national has an agenda favoring America West. ??

If ALPA is guilty of favoring UAL/DAL b/c of the revenue they bring in- as they are often accused -wouldn't it stand to reason that ALPA national if it were to pick sides would have chosen AAA as the larger carrier and one who paid more dues over more time?

Seems to me USAPA folks are upset b/c national chose NOT to pick sides using this reasoning... That you've had a perception that ALPA national has chosen sides in the past and that now should have been your turn to benefit as the "legacy" carrier.

 

[TWA Dude]

USAPA has no intention of stealing anything, seniority or otherwise, from any pilot.

What in the sam hill do you think DOH means? It means stapling 2/3 of the AWA group and making us your furlough-fodder. Nicolau didn't staple any East pilots employed when the merger closed.

The integration is in dispute for good reason.

The East not getting what it wanted isn't a good reason. Did you ever stop to think for a second about why Nicolau decided the way he did?

The whole process was tainted by ALPA's agenda ...

The buck stopped at Nicolau. His only agenda was a fair integration.

...as well as the East ALPA's incompetence.

So do you mean to tell me the East Merger Committee didn't do exactly what the constituency wanted? If your Merger Committee had veered one degree from seeking DOH they would have been replaced with pilots who would. This means the only fault lies not with East ALPA but with the East pilots. The proof: you didn't get DOH so now you want a new union that promises (surprise, surprise!) DOH. Well guess what, bubba, you didn't get DOH from Nicolau and you're not going to get it from USAPA either. The law is not on your side.

No one is going to be stapled or forced out or downgraded.

Thanks for nothing. Parker already stated this.

You'll all likely have 1200 former furloughed guys as furlough cushion. Is that not enough?

Really? So you're straying from the DOH mantra? Or do you just not understand what USAPA is promising?

 

[OB1]

Awappahoe= one who truly believes that seniority can be attained by "climbing over the backs of others"

do your own time - bass-terds

 

[waveflyer]

Really OB1- no dog in this fight- but the East is flat out wrong in this. You don't understand what seniority is. And the only thing i want all of you easties to think about is how you got your number at USAirways. Most of you got it flying Fokkers around in your twenties-- well now that Fokker is called an RJ and you have to fly it for sh!t!y mesa or skywest - where you have no seniority rights at all with the company that provides your passengers. The average new hire at Cactus is well into their 30's because of all the outsourcing- ie: not kids.
You want our generation to respect DOH- when you've committed the ultimate in seniority sins- FURLOUGH Pilots and then OUTSOURCE their jobs. If you had taken a stronger stance at that, you might have some credibility. But you didn't as a pilot group. If USAPA had done anything credible in support of the west pilots you might be closer to your objective- but you actually allowed West pilots with 4 years of longevity get furloughed 7-8 months before a new hire with 18 months on the east. So much for the sanctity of DOH. wtf?? I don't care who you are- you're objective is totally clear. Screw the west at any cost. And all it will do is create a bunch of wet dreams for AAA management as parker takes your bankruptcy contract to the bank.