USAPA tries to have 4 AWA pilots Fired!

[Ocity]

Hugh:

The RLA hasn't changed in many years. It's called Agency Shop and it applies to all US unionized airlines. Membership is optional but if you're a non-member you pay either an Agency Fee equal to full union dues or you can be a dues objector and pay around 85% of full dues.

That assumes the "Union" was properly formed and working in the common interest of all parties. 2800 out of 5300 pilots are non payers. All 4 USAPA is attempting to fire are West...two are female. They'll lose arbitration and the company is loath to fire a pilot for non-payment. Why would they risk the discrimination suit?

USAPA and the merry band of impotents that run it are pathetic jokes.

 

[av8tor4239]

I am curious if USair ever hires again who the F@$K would apply???

 

[cactusboy53]

I'm just waiting for callsign "United" .

Gee, I wonder if the UAL kids will vote to keep USAPA. Any UALers out there? How do you feel about the former AAA crew and USAPA?.......Flame On!!

 

[MK82Man]

Here's the really ironic thing. USAPA is now seeking arbitration since they didn't like the company's answer on not firing the West Pilots. It's hilarious, USAPA now wants arbitration (but only for the 4 West Pilots they want fired) ... will they stand by the arbitrator's ruling?

From the USAPA Update:

Item Two: USAPA has taken action to compel the Company to enforce Section 29 of both the East and West Collective Bargaining Agreements. In both contracts, Section 29 deals with the pilots’ financial obligation to the Bargaining Agent and termination of pilots who refuse to pay either dues, if a member, or at least the agency fees, if a non member. On Thursday the Company advised USAPA that they are declining to proceed with the termination of certain pilots due to USAPA’s alleged non-compliance with certain technical requirements.

Pursuant to Section 29, USAPA intends to appeal the Company decision to a neutral arbitrator for the purpose of obtaining an order requiring the Company to terminate the pilots in question. The costs of each arbitration will be split between USAPA and the individual pilot concerned.

USAPA has no desire to cause the termination of any pilot, East or West, but we have a duty to those who are currently fulfilling their financial obligation to compel all pilots to pay their fair share of the costs of running this union. The courts have continually upheld the principle of Agency Fee payment when an Agency Shop or security clause is in the contract, and as the aforementioned arguments are made before the neutral arbitrator we intend to move forward enforcing Section 29 as needed.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Why would a pilot agree to arbitration? If USAPA has a beef with how the company interpreted their actions, they should sue the company. Instead they pick on a softer target and then unilaterally decide that they will share the arbitration costs. If the pilot is not a member, they are not compelled to participate in arbitration outlined in the napkin that is the C&BL's (napkin2.0).

Bradford doesn't really understand his place in the real world, does he?

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Lame. Come on Loser. You gotta come up with something better then this Gulfstream crap. Its getting pretty desperate.

You mean kind of like the same old BS that you stir up even though you aren't even a US Airways pilot that you wrote here:

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=848465#post848465

How about me crossing picket lines. Thats much more amusing, since we do not have a single pilot that crossed at USAIR.

That might be true about US Airways pilots. But we all know the truth about PFT-MCDU, and how you bought your job at GIA.
But since you wrote here that you have nothing to do with this merger, why do you count yourself as a US Airways pilot?

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=848322#post848322

The AWA pilot group on the other hand have many pilots who had no problems crossing pilots on strike. The same way they have no problems taking away flying from real USair pilots. They do not want fences. I wonder why?

I wonder why a United pilot cares so much about US Airways east vs. west and why you would choose the side of the east, other than the fact that your EAL background would prove it otherwise.
I mean you are a UAL pilot aren't you Mcdoosh? You wrote it right here:

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1224345#post1224345

Your BS has been spewed enough. You've been exposed for the fraud and liar that you are.

M

 

[Occam's Razor]

Here's the really ironic thing. USAPA is now seeking arbitration since they didn't like the company's answer on not firing the West Pilots. It's hilarious, USAPA now wants arbitration (but only for the 4 West Pilots they want fired) ... will they stand by the arbitrator's ruling?

Classic!

Grievance arbitrations are binding. If USAPA doesn't like the arbitrator's award in this case...will they form yet another clueless organization in response?

This has gone from sad to funny.

I love these guys!

Quick, Curly!...put your hand up so Moe doesn't poke your eyes!

 

[WickedPissa]

Small problem Easthole...you're on the wrong side of the law.

guys who say "easthole" are really yearning to come out of the closet.

 

[waveflyer]

If the east prevails b/c the west is outnumbered and single carrier status has been determined, what will you do?

Will management see 1800 resignations? A bit premature, but what's the average line pilot saying?

 

[PHXFLYR]

I am curious if USair ever hires again who the F@$K would apply???

P.T. Barnum of Ringling Brothers Barnum and Bailey Circus fame was once quoted as saying "There's a sucker born every minute". I'm sure that will apply in this case....


PHXFLYR

 

[Bringupthebird]

If the east prevails b/c the west is outnumbered and single carrier status has been determined, what will you do?

Will management see 1800 resignations? A bit premature, but what's the average line pilot saying?

Management has been petrified of organized east action (or even mild displeasure - boarding priority, repainting an airplane that wasn't the right shade of blue, etc.) so I think the bigger question is what will happen if, for once in the past 3 years, the east doesn't get their way (aw, alright you're forced to choke out "Cactus" 50 times a day). We all heard the sabre rattling of "nothing left to lose", blah, blah, blah prior to USAPA, but we have yet to see a defensive play from USAPA that has worked successfully. Do they still hold the power to intimidate Parker? Not so much I think.

I would hope somebody would appeal the single carrier ruling and send each side back to their own corner and let the TA work out the way it was designed to.

 

[On Your Six]

I think it is safe to say that USAirways has become the last choice of employment for the vast majority of potential applicants out there (who meet the hiring criteria). Who would ever consider sitting on the bottom of the seniority list of that place considering all of the hatred and rancor displayed every day? I feel bad for the most recent crop of newhires who have now been laid off after having given up solid positions elsewhere. Yeah, I wouldn't be too proud to be a USAirways pilot nowadays given this train wreck.

 

[Boeing747Driver]

MC POO who do you work for today? NASA?

Dude, I do not work for USAir.

Settle down
I guess u bit the bait.

Marty

 

[MCDU]

I have to idea. How about you Zak?


M

 

[Boeing747Driver]

I have to idea. How about you Zak?


M

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