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captairbusbb said:
To have an appeal filed, there must be proof that there was corruption, wrong-doing, or illegality by the court or witnesses.

An appeal may not be filed because the loser of the battle did not like the outcome of the case because it did not go their way like the easties view of the Nicolau award.

This is the end of the road boys and girls. Get over it and move forward.

airbusbb
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Most excellent point....
 
BeCareful! said:
General,

You're doing a fine job a campaigning for ALPA. You sound like everyone's dream come true as far as a union brother is concerned.
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:eek: Huh ???...someone who supports "tyranny over the minority " spouting off about "union brotherhood ?? "
Man is that rich . :rolleyes:

PHXFLYR:cool:
 
Doug and co. should never have touched USAir. If they had let the free market have it's way, the only seniority list the USAir pilots would be complaining about would be the one at Home Depot.
 
HomerJ said:
Doug and co. should never have touched USAir. If they had let the free market have it's way, the only seniority list the USAir pilots would be complaining about would be the one at Home Depot.
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then they would be senior to AW, at the depot, cause there doors would have shut soon after.
 
General Lee said:
You East guys are a bunch of babies, and it's time for you to go to your rooms for a "time out." You will hopefully lose big time. Hey, if you accept binding arbitration, and you knew Nicelau (you wanted him initially), and he kept telling you DOH wouldn't work and to come up with something else, and you didn't, then TOO BAD.
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Having spent 4 days in the courtroom myself, it is obvious that the East wanted to evade binding arbitration. Too bad for them, USAPA is driving a Yugo and the cops are closing in.

Verdict by Tuesday or Wednesday.
 
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Cowboy75 said:
Having spent 4 days in the courtroom myself, it is obvious that the East wanted to evade binding arbitration. Too bad for them, USAPA is driving a Yugo and the cops are closing in.

Verdict by Tuesday or Wednesday.
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The East is trying desperately to make a case to the jury that the award isn't fair. Unfortunately for them, the trial is about whether or not USAPA is properly representing the West pilots, not about integration. What I find amazing while sitting in the courtroom is how the East boys explain USAPA is better for West pilots because it eliminated ALPA's "log jam" requirement of dual ratification by each MEC and subsequently, each pilot group. Since the East outvotes the West almost 2 to 1, they're going to push whatever agenda they see fit. But don't worry....their constitution promises to be fair.

Unfortunatly, if they convince one jurist that some West "kid" is trying to steal the money poor Sully is saving to keep from living in a van by the river, it's over. What ever the judge might have said about the objective of the case is moot and the BS that the East has been pulling in court worked..and they have pulled some antics.

Let's hope the system works.
 
Heyas,

Not taking sides, BUT, DFR cases have traditionally been EXTREMELY tough to prove, let alone collect from.

The common man has no love of unions, and this is looking just like a lovers spat to most people (IE a jurist).

Before the west (or east) guys get their hopes up too high for a slam dunk, be ready for a verdict from left field.

Nu
 
Crzipilot said:
Yes, and a democratic vote is not grounds for dfr, just because you are outnumbered......
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So using your logic, if we merged with the larger NEW Delta and "we the pilots" wanted to democratically vote to staple the smaller NEW USAir pilots to the bottom of the list, you would be OK with that? Riiiiiiight.:rolleyes:
 
JohnQ said:
Gee that's funny. I've had lots of DAL guys claim the same thing (that they got screwed). I guess it was a pretty fair integration after all?

And how would a USAPA-like in-house union make things better? Oh, it wouldn't.
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All I heard during the trial was how the West was going to be protected. Over and over again, protected, protected, protected.

The truth is USAPA was wearing protection while we get the shaft!
 
Captzaahlie said:
Excuse me , that was not a "purchase" or "merge" your company had to pay to play....

Airways sucked a fee out of your company just to let you have the 'privilege" to fly for them....
This "investment" gave new meaning to the term outsourcing a contract carrier!
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You do realize that had that "investment" not been "sucked out of (their) company "; US east might have very well been forced to liquidate taking Piedmont and PSA down along with it. You do realize that, don't you ?


PHXFLYR:cool:
 
PHXFLYR said:
You do realize that had that "investment" not been "sucked out of (their) company "; US east might have very well been forced to liquidate taking Piedmont and PSA down along with it. You do realize that, don't you ?


PHXFLYR:cool:
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Yes I realize that X 4... during those times i was applying for sim. instructor positions because I thought Airways was about to go t1ts up. (not many other places were hiring at the time either if I recall correctly). Not only did I realize that I was one of the red headed step children immersed in that realization.

My point is that it was a business transaction, those pilots have no rights to be attached to any Airways seniority list because of it. I'm not bashing that pilot group, but the few that think they deserve some kind of 'flow" rights are in never, never land.

Did i happen to mention that i realized that?
 
captfred said:
You are kidding-right?? Doug is the most happy guy on the planet with the 2 groups fighting with permanent B scale wages and working conditions in place.
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Yep, the status quo is just fine with Doug. Another perfect example of dumb pilots making idiot managers look like geniuses.
 
Captzaahlie said:
Yes I realize that X 4... during those times i was applying for sim. instructor positions because I thought Airways was about to go t1ts up. (not many other places were hiring at the time either if I recall correctly). Not only did I realize that I was one of the red headed step children immersed in that realization.

My point is that it was a business transaction, those pilots have no rights to be attached to any Airways seniority list because of it. I'm not bashing that pilot group, but the few that think they deserve some kind of 'flow" rights are in never, never land.

Did i happen to mention that i realized that?
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Agreed...but a guy can dream, can't he ... ???;)


PHXFLYR:cool:
 

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