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USAPA: Downfall is coming from within!

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Crzipilot...........?????????

What is your point?......You a diehard USAPA supporter, what does this have to do with FPL and ALPA?

Your NAC pulled out of negotiations......The longer you accept USAPA's postion, the longer it will take to make what Jetblue f/o's will be reaping and live with loa 93 in infinity.

Make no mistake, the facts are the facts, (and don't let facts stand in the way of fiction) and the longer you support USAPA, you will be fed bullshiite from your leader Clearyhole, and you will stay at the bottom of the payroll barrel until you see the light at the end of the tunnel.

His point, obviously, is that the opinion pasted into the beginning of thread was likely written by a card carrying member of the former ALPA GAG (Give Away Gang), a group who is now most aligned with your pilots in the "let's move on right now and get that big, fat, lucrative contract that Doug and Scott are just dying to offer us" delusion.

We are very familiar with these pilots, their tactics, and their motives. Funny that it's posted here as if it's some significant development in the east ranks. What a joke.
 
Will USAPA fail? Who knows, whether they do or don't the damage is already done. All the pilots both East and West could have had a contract on par with Delta. That chance is gone. Because a large percentage of East pilots wanted want was not rightfully theirs the door has closed and the bus has left. Could USAPA be turned into a real union. That would depend on the East. How many were just blind and with time could see the light? How many are scumbags who will never care what is right or wrong? Thank goodness I left before this all came down.
 
His point, obviously, is that the opinion pasted into the beginning of thread was likely written by a card carrying member of the former ALPA GAG (Give Away Gang), a group who is now most aligned with your pilots in the "let's move on right now and get that big, fat, lucrative contract that Doug and Scott are just dying to offer us" delusion.
How would you use divisiveness and disunity (the only things that USAPA has cultivated) to get any type of contract? When has splitting the pilot group ever lead to major improvements?

The Cleary's of the world have never delivered on their rhetoric, but idiots keep voting them into office just to make themselves feel like they're doing something.

Instead of actually doing something.
 
Well it is an option. though I think you have to be a member to start a recall action.

Die hard Usapa? No, not me.

Ya, B6 f/o's will be making more than the east f/o's. But uhmm...aren't they also quite a bit above that industry leading West contract to? Even with that big fat offer from kirby? So what's your point?
 
Another ounce of false information. No union wants to deal with usapa? hmmm....interesting...

CAPA is a trade association comprised of over 28,000 professional pilots. CAPA's purpose is to address safety, security, legislative and regulatory issues affecting the professional flight deck crew member on matters of common interest to the individual member unions. The five members of CAPA are:
Union
Airline
Allied Pilots Association (APA)
American
Independent Pilots Association (IPA)
UPS
Southwest Airlines Pilots Association (SWAPA)
Southwest
Teamsters Local 1224
ABX Air
US Airline Pilots Association (USAPA)
US Airways
 
Another ounce of false information. No union wants to deal with usapa? hmmm....interesting...

CAPA is a trade association comprised of over 28,000 professional pilots. CAPA's purpose is to address safety, security, legislative and regulatory issues affecting the professional flight deck crew member on matters of common interest to the individual member unions. The five members of CAPA are:

Union


Airline

Allied Pilots Association (APA)
American
Independent Pilots Association (IPA)
UPS
Southwest Airlines Pilots Association (SWAPA)
Southwest
Teamsters Local 1224
ABX Air
US Airline Pilots Association (USAPA)
US Airways

The sole purpose of usapa's birth was to overthrow a federally arbitrated seniority list.

APA, IPA UPS, SWAPA Teamsters Local 224, ABX, and USAPA, do not represent the West.

CAPA does not give one SHIITE about usapa......They all know your motive was to put the west under the bus. They know that you usapa supporters are all about yourselves and that is why you have only approximately 100 west members in "good" standing. What does that tell you about solidarity and unification?

If you think CAPA is looking out for your well being and support, you are smoking some pretty damn good crack.

You and Mcdoosh are on the same page...........I'm truly sorry that you couldn't find another job while you were furloghed and you tried to recapture your lost position at the expense of the westyz, but NIC, Judge Wake, and the RICO lawsuit all seem to think that the merger was not your WINDFALL to steal jobs from gainfully employed people.

You need to stop listening to cleary and admit that your dues you are paying to an experimental association are going directly to Seham.

But send them your dues anyway............In the 14 months of usapa's inception, ask yourself..........where has it gotten me? Nowhere. No new contract, no DOH, no unity, No nothing. Only the extention of LOA 93.

You keep losing and only promise an appeal......Guess where the appeal is going!!
 
Another ounce of false information. No union wants to deal with usapa? hmmm....interesting...

CAPA is a trade association comprised of over 28,000 professional pilots. CAPA's purpose is to address safety, security, legislative and regulatory issues affecting the professional flight deck crew member on matters of common interest to the individual member unions. The five members of CAPA are:
Union
Airline
Allied Pilots Association (APA)
American
Independent Pilots Association (IPA)
UPS
Southwest Airlines Pilots Association (SWAPA)
Southwest
Teamsters Local 1224
ABX Air
US Airline Pilots Association (USAPA)
US Airways


You can thank the good Hero "Sully" for the admittance into CAPA. CAPA thought they can get more respect on the hill if they counted the hero in their ranks...
 

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