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USAirways off the runway at PHL

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You idiots need to wait until the facts are out. You all sound like those jackasses on CNN speculating and guessing for hours on end.
 
weasel_lips said:
You idiots need to wait until the facts are out. You all sound like those jackasses on CNN speculating and guessing for hours on end.
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First off you're the idiot to come on flightinfo calling others idiots thinking that you'd find facts over speculation on this social board.
 
WSurf said:
First off you're the idiot to come on flightinfo calling others idiots thinking that you'd find facts over speculation on this social board.
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It's no big deal that people speculate about what MAY have happened... Idiot status is reserved for those who hope and pray (and even declare victoriously) that a pilot did something wrong because they themselves have an obsessive hatred against East pilots over an issue completely unrelated. They are the same people that gloat about 5 fatal accidents in five years. They are the same idiots who secretly wish someone had died this time.

Speculate about what may have happened to your hearts content.

Keep the pom poms out of sight until the investigators condemn the pilots. ;)
 
Turtle21 said:
It's no big deal that people speculate about what MAY have happened... Idiot status is reserved for those who hope and pray (and even declare victoriously) that a pilot did something wrong because they themselves have an obsessive hatred against East pilots over an issue completely unrelated. They are the same people that gloat about 5 fatal accidents in five years. They are the same idiots who secretly wish someone had died this time.

Speculate about what may have happened to your hearts content.

Keep the pom poms out of sight until the investigators condemn the pilots. ;)
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Here's some advice that might help ya. Get thicker skin and don't worry about stuff you can't control.
 
weasel_lips said:
You idiots need to wait until the facts are out. You all sound like those jackasses on CNN speculating and guessing for hours on end.
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Well, all those jackasses except for Kit Darby, right? I mean, he is THE authority on all things aviation, isn't he?
 
booo said:
Airborne twice? On takeoff? She's got some splaining to do!!
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Wait to see the photo of the aft fuselage floating around. 20 feet of tail scrape. Looks like an over rotation followed by a reject but popped airborne first. Big question will be why the over rotation.
 
densoo said:
Wait to see the photo of the aft fuselage floating around. 20 feet of tail scrape. Looks like an over rotation followed by a reject but popped airborne first. Big question will be why the over rotation.
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Maybe there was no over-rotation at all. Maybe the tail scrape could have happened after as they settled back on the runway... Maybe the blowout happened at the same time as V1, tire pieces flamed out one or both engines, with plenty of runway remaining, they decided to abort and stop on the ground remaining, scraping the tail as they settled back on the runway. I doubt an over-rotation of any magnitude could blow out a nose-wheel tire...

Who can really say until we get the official data.

Maybe if the Concorde crew had aborted at high speed and ran off the end of the runway and only seriously injuring passengers instead of taking it it the air, they could have been hero's... Speculation sucks...
 
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ALGFLYR said:
Maybe there was no over-rotation at all. Maybe the tail scrape could have happened after as they settled back on the runway... Maybe the blowout happened at the same time as V1, tire pieces flamed out one or both engines, with plenty of runway remaining, they decided to abort and stop on the ground remaining, scraping the tail as they settled back on the runway. I doubt an over-rotation of any magnitude could blow out a nose-wheel tire...

Who can really say until we get the official data.

Maybe if the Concorde crew had aborted at high speed and ran off the end of the runway and only seriously injuring passengers instead of taking it it the air, they could have been hero's... Speculation sucks...
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Yes, that could be what happened as well.
 
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ALGFLYR said:
Maybe there was no over-rotation at all. Maybe the tail scrape could have happened after as they settled back on the runway... Maybe the blowout happened at the same time as V1, tire pieces flamed out one or both engines, with plenty of runway remaining, they decided to abort and stop on the ground remaining, scraping the tail as they settled back on the runway. I doubt an over-rotation of any magnitude could blow out a nose-wheel tire...

Who can really say until we get the official data.

Maybe if the Concorde crew had aborted at high speed and ran off the end of the runway and only seriously injuring passengers instead of taking it it the air, they could have been hero's... Speculation sucks...
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Who says a blown tire occurred at all? The USAir PR people? They were just going with the flow to get the story to the back burner.

The tail scrape is deep.

Even your scenario; "they decided to abort and stop on the ground remaining, scraping the tail as they settled back on the runway" is exceptionally unlikely. Airplanes under any control at all don't land hard on their tail.

So far it looks like an over reaction to an over-rotation.
 
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ableone said:
Who says a blown tire occurred at all? The USAir PR people? They were just going with the flow to get the story to the back burner.

The tail scrape is deep.

Even your scenario; "they decided to abort and stop on the ground remaining, scraping the tail as they settled back on the runway" is exceptionally unlikely. Airplanes under any control at all don't land hard on their tail.

So far it looks like an over reaction to an over-rotation.
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Who is to say what really happened... I wasn't actually there. No more speculation from me at all... patiently waiting for an official report...
 

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