Usairways Non Rev Travel

[GateGirl]

So they're blaming the IRS??

 

[BollaBolla]

Okay, I think some US Airways CEOs need to go and travel their own system for a few days as a normal paying passanger sitting in coach and travelling a couple connections with a few express carriers thrown in the mix and see the reality of themselves.

They decide to get RJs because jets make people happy. Has anyone here ever travelled to Maine on Colgan's Beech?? Because the 5 or 6 passangers they have wouldn't work in a jet. It would cost you more money to operate than your making. Yea thats a good plan... we'll loose money, but hey the passangers will be happy.

I don't know who came up with this idea, but it was surely genius. I like to think it went something like this...

"I know!!! If we charge the contract carriers to fly on us it will be great! We'll make money and we'll piss off all the employees! We'll force them to pay, and then when they get upset and quit we can hire new people who make less!! We'll need that extra money so we can get rid of the little carriers... Then we can fly jets on the routes!! Lets all celebrate by signing a really stupid codeshare!!!!! And you know what else?? When we sign this new codeshare lets not give the contract carriers benefits on them!! It will be so much fun!!! Like taxation without representation!!!! Maybe we'll throw a tea party in the hubs!! You think they'll notice the irony??"

 

[zekes]

what, no sny comments from IP freely... i'm shocked... jk! this topic is getting boring all of a sudden. Have you all accepted the inevitability? Was that a rip off from the Matrix?

 

[whiskytangofoxt]

Service Charge

Is it all contractors or just the Wexford ones? probably just anouther way to gouge the flight crew, Glad im gone

 

[I.P. Freley]

Welllll.... I'm not sure what a "sny" comment is, but yes, the topic has become boring. As for accepting the inevitability of it all, sure, had to accept that the moment the memo was in my hands. Doesn't mean I have to be happy about it, now, does it?

And no, WTF, it's ALL the contract carriers. We might be able to work out some sort of reciprocity agreement to be able to commute on the prop contract carriers, but not definitely. Guess we'll see.

 

[328dude]

Just a note:

I made a few phone calls today and spoke with some of the affiliates jumpseat coordinators and talked to mainline Mngmt today about the ramifications of this.

After I got a word that shuttle refused a jumpseat to a WO crew member, the $hit hit the fan.

A person at mainline in Crytal plaza said that if the affiliates started to do this, they would cancel the non rev travel benefits entirly on the affiliates. Not very likely, but was said.

I stressed the erge that we need a solution to this so that you don't pit the people that actually make this so called company work, turn on each other and he agreed.

I hope to have some more info next week.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Now... When you say "shuttle" do you mean Shuttle America or "air shuttle", as in Mesa?

In either case, are you saying it was done as a punishment? If that is the allegation, is there any evidence, or did someone just not get a ride because of a W&B restriction and decide to make a political issue out of it?

 

[328dude]

I.P.

It was a shuttle America crew doing a PIT-ERI flight.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Okay that answers one of the questions.

 

[328dude]

This story was not because of the travel policy that is being implimented on 01/01/04.

This is what this post is about.

If you want to talk about denying the jumpseat period, I have 100's of documents to give you from mainline to CCair.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Huh?

 

[Long-Gonner]

328dude, Are you a union guy or management?

 

[328dude]

Why does it matter?

 

[Long-Gonner]

It doesn't matter to me, but maybe some PSA guys on here might be worried about it. So, which is it: Taco or Hot Dog?

 

[US Airways AV8R]

not taking anyones side here, but isn't there a couple dozen reasons why someone could be denied a jumpseat. its wintertime, and those puddle jumpers could have weight restrictions, the pilot might not have met the dress code requirements, the jumpseat might already been full or broken etc. etc. i personally have denied the jumpseat on numerous occasions throughtout my aviation career for various reasons, but never once because I didn't want to share the cockpit with an express pilot. just my two cents.