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[Dornier 335]

Nope. But it's certainly being committed by Easties. [...] Weird mentality over there.

Depends on your point of view. As a third lister I have encountered all kinds of strange behavior by your West collegues. From being chewed out for not knowing the PHX door code to evil looks during indoc at the PHX training center. Reading some posts from West colleagues does seem to support this West hate mentality. Haters gonna hate. Ask Grumpy for details ...

Several sources do support the fact that aircraft "misconfigurations" were started by certain West crews (ACARS and FMS autotuning disabling, TR1 breaker pulled, Shoe polish on headsets etc. ). Some real tough guys out there...

 

[Dornier 335]

So why is your "union" exempt from this principle?

Nobody is exempt or entitled to anything. It's like what Yoda said at one point "up the fu(k you must".

 

[TWA Dude]

As a third lister I have encountered all kinds of strange behavior by your West collegues.

Well, it's certainly true there could be knuckleheads on the West doing stupid stuff and I'm ashamed of any pilot who mindlessly takes out his anger on others. That being said, history points to Easties being the more likely culprits. Very misplaced anger.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Depends on your point of view. As a third lister I have encountered all kinds of strange behavior by your West collegues. From being chewed out for not knowing the PHX door code to evil looks during indoc at the PHX training center. Reading some posts from West colleagues does seem to support this West hate mentality. Haters gonna hate. Ask Grumpy for details ...

Did they sue you? Did they extract 10s of thousands of dollars to finance those same lawsuits against you? Did they cripple the entire industry by welding the bar to the bottom to ensure they got what only they felt they deserved at your expense?

That sounds like hate to me. Holding you accountable for your actions and those you gave tacit approval to isn't hate.

 

[Dornier 335]

Did they sue you? Did they extract 10s of thousands of dollars to finance those same lawsuits against you? Did they cripple the entire industry by welding the bar to the bottom to ensure they got what only they felt they deserved at your expense?

That sounds like hate to me. Holding you accountable for your actions and those you gave tacit approval to isn't hate.

So... you are justifying pilots pulling breakers and doing other deliberate unsafe actions because they think they have a reason? Are you for real??? Guess what Grumpy, everybody has a freaking story to tell. I find it odd that I always have to listen to other people's story and nobody asks me what my freaking story is.

Pathetic!

 

[Dornier 335]

Well, it's certainly true there could be knuckleheads on the West doing stupid stuff and I'm ashamed of any pilot who mindlessly takes out his anger on others. [...]

Agree.

 

[ERfly]

Well, it's certainly true there could be knuckleheads on the West doing stupid stuff and I'm ashamed of any pilot who mindlessly takes out his anger on others. That being said, history points to Easties being the more likely culprits. Very misplaced anger.

The paranoia and conspiracy with some of you Westies is mind boggling. You actually think it's a huge conspiracy by East pilots to pin these actions on West pilots? Trust me, pilots aren't that cleaver, no matter what side of the Mississippi you're on. The fact that the FOM and Pilot Handbook policies are being violated is frightening (pulling breakers, disabling systems, etc). Something is going on if all four Directors of Flight are now involved. Is this a hair-brained theory you came up with or is this preachings of AOL?

As a third-lister, I have no dog in your fight, but I'll be damned if I'll let some childish game come in the way of safety. With some of the hate and anger I see on various internet boards, I wonder how many of you will have your medicals above age 50.

 

[St. Nic]

West pilots are drug runners and scabs. West pilots are drunks. They are now a safety problem to the public. Third listers are learning why the west pilots are scum of the industry. The company needs to fire the west.

 

[Bringupthebird]

So... you are justifying pilots...

Are you 4 years old? Grow up.

 

[Dornier 335]

Are you 4 years old? Grow up.

Reread your posts again before you post Grumpy.

 

[TWA Dude]

Well haven't heard that, but gotta say (with all due respect ) those west a/c that

The East now has on our pairings - those planes are quite old and need to be parked

The A1 powered birds are from 1988-89 and absolutely need to go. Please spread the word that they take a long time to start and aren't hanging.

 

[ERfly]

The A1 powered birds are from 1988-89 and absolutely need to go. Please spread the word that they take a long time to start and aren't hanging.

We figured that out the other night! There was nothing to hang...it just motored for almost a minute before fuel was introduced. If anything, they'll force some captains to single-engine taxi...if no other reason than we need to get out of the way.

 

[johnnyb]

West pilots are drug runners and scabs. West pilots are drunks. They are now a safety problem to the public. Third listers are learning why the west pilots are scum of the industry. The company needs to fire the west.

Quit posting this crap.

 

[St. Nic]

Quit posting this crap.

ok, how about this.
AWA has Wien Air scabs
AWA has two drunk pilots busted in Miami
AWA has pilots that were busted for hauling "freight"
AWA has pilots that are now sabotaging aircraft.

Better?

 

[Bringupthebird]

We figured that out the other night! There was nothing to hang...it just motored for almost a minute before fuel was introduced. If anything, they'll force some captains to single-engine taxi...if no other reason than we need to get out of the way.

It's easier to start than an A330 APU, thankfully