BenderGonzales
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mk82 said, "...as the company works the way down and then again back up the list"
Just so we all understand precisely how this works -- EVERY bid starts from the top of the furlough list. They call the most senior pilot on furlough and work down to the most junior.
As long as someone junior to you remains on furlough, you may bypass.
As long as the recall is to an E190, you may bypass.
So this new bid for 130 pilots will start over again on the top of the furlough list. They will go down as far as it takes on the list to fill those 130 spots.
IF (and it's a big IF) they are unable to get 130 people to accept recall when they get to the most junior person on the list, they have the right to say, "Take it or leave it". As long as the recalls are to group II or better aircraft they can then move back up the list asking "take it or leave it" until they have their 130 people.
When the bid that FOLLOWS this one comes out, they start at the TOP of the furlough list again! So each and every bid must go all the way through the furlough list (well over 1000 people) before "working back up the list".
Ok, so let's talk about the E190. A bid comes out for 56 E190 positions. They work through 1500+ furloughees and all of them bypass until they get to the bottom guy and he bypasses as well.
NOW the company can hire into the E190... BUT ONLY ENOUGH TO STAFF THAT BID!!!
If the NEXT bid comes out and has another 50 E190 positions, guess what? They start at the TOP of the furlough list, work allllll the way down to the bottom and THEN, if they haven't found 50 people desperate enough to work for those payrates, they can hire those 50.
This, of course, is all subject to the company abiding by the contract. I would expect that when the contracts are finally merged, that provision would go away. (It's not realistic, long term, (in terms of crew planning), to allow indefinite bypass for a single piece of equipment that results in HIRING with pilots on furlough.)
Just so we all understand precisely how this works -- EVERY bid starts from the top of the furlough list. They call the most senior pilot on furlough and work down to the most junior.
As long as someone junior to you remains on furlough, you may bypass.
As long as the recall is to an E190, you may bypass.
So this new bid for 130 pilots will start over again on the top of the furlough list. They will go down as far as it takes on the list to fill those 130 spots.
IF (and it's a big IF) they are unable to get 130 people to accept recall when they get to the most junior person on the list, they have the right to say, "Take it or leave it". As long as the recalls are to group II or better aircraft they can then move back up the list asking "take it or leave it" until they have their 130 people.
When the bid that FOLLOWS this one comes out, they start at the TOP of the furlough list again! So each and every bid must go all the way through the furlough list (well over 1000 people) before "working back up the list".
Ok, so let's talk about the E190. A bid comes out for 56 E190 positions. They work through 1500+ furloughees and all of them bypass until they get to the bottom guy and he bypasses as well.
NOW the company can hire into the E190... BUT ONLY ENOUGH TO STAFF THAT BID!!!
If the NEXT bid comes out and has another 50 E190 positions, guess what? They start at the TOP of the furlough list, work allllll the way down to the bottom and THEN, if they haven't found 50 people desperate enough to work for those payrates, they can hire those 50.
This, of course, is all subject to the company abiding by the contract. I would expect that when the contracts are finally merged, that provision would go away. (It's not realistic, long term, (in terms of crew planning), to allow indefinite bypass for a single piece of equipment that results in HIRING with pilots on furlough.)
