USAir East West NIC Award Resolution? Very soon!

[Mamma]

I'm still not clear on how anyone is "winning" here. Airbus top 320 Capt pay at East is $125/hr. Financial madness and an anchor on the industry. You guys have to straighten this out. This represents a loss of $40-$80K a year as compared to industry peers. 60K/yr loss on the A330. Madness.

Alaska: $180
Delta: $182
JetBlue: $164
Spirit: $168
Virgin: $150
Southwest: $216

 

[The Drizzle]

I'm still not clear on how anyone is "winning" here. Airbus top 320 Capt pay at East is $125/hr. Financial madness and an anchor on the industry. You guys have to straighten this out. This represents a loss of $40-$80K a year as compared to industry peers. 60K/yr loss on the A330. Madness.

Alaska: $180
Delta: $182
JetBlue: $164
Spirit: $168
Virgin: $150
Southwest: $216

That awkward feeling in the cockpit when the JBLU FO on the jumpseat brought home more than your captain.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Quiet Mamma! Defending their rights at all costs to the worst pay rates in the industry is what the east is all about. If you have to suffer because of their selfishness, too bad.

 

[Bringupthebird]

See there - that is the mentality of the West "as I spend your Captain's check".

Nah, that's not the mentality of the west. That's just the only thing I could think of concerning the east that didn't involve profanity.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Wide range of reasonableness. It's the law.

The undermining of Binding arbitration has farther reaching consequences. I wouldn't rely on your "wide range" to protect you from being held accountable for your actions.

When damages are handed down (and you can be sure they will) you will look back and wish this had been resolved sooner.

 

[vetrider]

The undermining of Binding arbitration has farther reaching consequences. I wouldn't rely on your "wide range" to protect you from being held accountable for your actions.

When damages are handed down (and you can be sure they will) you will look back and wish this had been resolved sooner.

I don't doubt for one second that another Jury would see the usapa rat for what it is, no matter what. The bread crumb trail has already been left, and I think it's a big enough turn off that the Jury will have lost all sympathy they may have had for the east and their 'plight.'

That said, with our ********************ed up legal system, I don't expect to ever see any 'damages.' That's just me.

 

[Flybywire44]

I'm still not clear on how anyone is "winning" here. Airbus top 320 Capt pay at East is $125/hr. Financial madness and an anchor on the industry. You guys have to straighten this out. This represents a loss of $40-$80K a year as compared to industry peers. 60K/yr loss on the A330. Madness.

Alaska: $180
Delta: $182
JetBlue: $164
Spirit: $168
Virgin: $150
Southwest: $216

So long as the merger happens then every group will benefit tremendously.

I feel bad for the America West minority who made their livelihood obsessing over Nic. This potential merger and APA/USAPA is going to prove much bigger than their ambition and vinegar.

The APA pilot group reflects the same age demographic as East pilots. APA may do everything they can to subvert a Nic award.

USAPA won't ask for much from APA: "Just give us seniority integration that blended towards DOH with pay parity."

 

[TWA Dude]

Your cluelessness is so cute. Vis-a-vis the Nic the APA will do whatever their lawyers tell them is the path of least resistance. I'm pretty sure I know what that is.
And regardless, the APA will do whatever it can to screw the entire USAir pilot group. If they don't like the arbitration result they'll try anything to get around it, perhaps even change unions. Wouldn't that be ironic.

Oh, and I'm still an APA member. Ain't that a hoot.

 

[Dornier 335]

So long as the merger happens then every group will benefit tremendously.

Sure has been quiet about this lately....

 

[Mamma]

So long as the merger happens then every group will benefit tremendously.

I feel bad for the America West minority who made their livelihood obsessing over Nic. This potential merger and APA/USAPA is going to prove much bigger than their ambition and vinegar.

The APA pilot group reflects the same age demographic as East pilots. APA may do everything they can to subvert a Nic award.

USAPA won't ask for much from APA: "Just give us seniority integration that blended towards DOH with pay parity."

What happens if the merger does not go through? Is the East going to continue to bleed over this dispute or figure a way out to solve it? Status quo seems like complete financial stupidity. Seniority is great but getting stiffed $60/hr seems insane.