USAIR East Pilots not alone.

[becket]

You are correct, but if the binding arbitrator doesn't follow the rules, then what?

Then you collect a few million dollars, sue in Federal court and hope you can prove your accusation of "not following the rules". To characterize that as an uphill battle is epic understatement .

 

[Turtle21]

Hate to throw a wrench in the works here guys, but you need to have a time from on the page count.

Some ground rules please.

First rule is spelling doesn't count.

 

[TWA Dude]

You are correct, but if the binding arbitrator doesn't follow the rules, then what?

The arbitrator decides how the rules are to be followed. Barring any evidence of impropriety his ruling will stand. Disagreeing with him isn't grounds for a lawsuit.

 

[Grey Ghost]

Once again, FAPA blew it! Get over yourselves!!!

 

[Quiet Flight]

The problem is that all parties agree on........wait for it...........BINDING ARBITRATION. Then when they don't like the decision they take their ball and go home. If you don't want to abide by the BINDING ARBITRATION then don't agree to it.

Agreed.

And...let's not forget the ARBITRARY nature of this method!! Labor groups expect an arbitrator (from the root ARBITRARY) with no skin in the game to come up with a reasonable decision. It will NEVER happen. And as evidenced again and again, even if a "solution" is handed down from the arbitrator, it does not necessarily mean the parties will abide by it. No matter what they signed at the beginning of the negotiating process. It's the nature of the process and the litigious world we live in. Don't like something your union agreed to beforehand? File suit and drag out the integration for eternity. Not a big deal. There are few, if any, immediate repercussions.

And yes FAPA blew it. Again. I genuinely feel for my friends who are F/O's over there. All of their F/O's for that matter. :angryfire


This really sums it up.

Arbitrary:

• Determined by chance, whim, or impulse, and not by necessity, reason, or principle: stopped at the first motel we passed, an arbitrary choice.
• Based on or subject to individual judgment or preference: The diet imposes overall calorie limits, but daily menus are arbitrary.
• Established by a court or judge rather than by a specific law or statute: an arbitrary penalty.
• Not limited by law; despotic: the arbitrary rule of a dictator.

 

[chqflyer]

Why is this in the majors section?

 

[doh]

Anyone have a link to the arbitrated award?

 

[Fubijaakr]

Why is this in the majors section?

Exactly. And why do F9 guys think they're "mainline"? Because they had Lynx feeding them?

 

[USMC319]

Fubijaakr or jack$$, or whatever your name is. Maybe Frontier is considered mainline because they fly narrow body mainline jets under their own brand and exceed the billion dollar revenue threshold to be considered a Major Airline under the DOT definition. But whatever hate you can spew out to sate your inferiority complex will work fine too.

 

[bri5150]

Fubijaakr or jack$$, or whatever your name is. Maybe Frontier is considered mainline because they fly narrow body mainline jets under their own brand and exceed the billion dollar revenue threshold to be considered a Major Airline under the DOT definition. But whatever hate you can spew out to sate your inferiority complex will work fine too.

I was thinking the same thing...if Frontier isn't mainline, then neither is VA, SWA, Airtran...