USAir 1549 CVR transcript

Rez O. Lewshun

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Less than 250ft to go and 22 secs to brace.. Sullenburger says.. you got any ideas.... that is some cool CRM.....
 

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After all that stupid french airplane calls him a retard at the end...

Insult to injury...
 

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yeah I'm the Captain on fifteen forty nine aircraft
one zero six if you'll if you will please correct the
passenger count we have a total of one four
eight, plus two plus two ACM. [sounds as if this
communication is by cellular telephone]
What an industry to work in. Have to use your own cell phone while taxiing to get things done. Unbelievable what managements have done to this industry. ALPA should organize a nationwide walkout. Haven't the pilots walked out nationally in India, Italy, and England? It's our turn.
 

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What an industry to work in. Have to use your own cell phone while taxiing to get things done. Unbelievable what managements have done to this industry. ALPA should organize a nationwide walkout. Haven't the pilots walked out nationally in India, Italy, and England? It's our turn.

You have people accepting jobs for 17k per year it will never happen...But it needs to..
 

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Of course, if the outcome had been different, the FAA would have blamed the accident on extraneous comm during a sterile ops when they talk about how the DL/NW merger seems to have gone better than their own.
 

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Just finished his book "Highest Duty" pretty good read and I hope good insite to the non flying public on the airline industry!
 

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Less than 250ft to go and 22 secs to brace.. Sullenburger says.. you got any ideas.... that is some cool CRM.....
I thought Skiles' response was even better:

"Actually not."

Great composure, I think.
 

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I thought Skiles' response was even better:

"Actually not."

Great composure, I think.

Agreed. Both pilots were sharp and professional. Consider if one of them was that toolbox (we've all flown with) that thinks he is cool and professional but is actually a poor pilot....

The outcome could have been different...

The problem is... all the weak pilots out there that think they are the greatest are using false consciousness to reassure themselves that they can be a Sully or Skiles on any given day.

The real professional pilots out there are considering how they would handle such a situation and taking action, whatever it might be, to improve their skillset.
 

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The real professional pilots out there are considering how they would handle such a situation and taking action, whatever it might be, to improve their skillset.
Seconded, and well worth repeating. Well said.
 

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After all that stupid french airplane calls him a retard at the end...

Insult to injury...
errrr.... since when is Airbus French? It is as multi-national as Boeing. Got some anger to vent?
 

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Agreed. Both pilots were sharp and professional. Consider if one of them was that toolbox (we've all flown with) that thinks he is cool and professional but is actually a poor pilot....

The outcome could have been different...
Yes, suppose one of them instinctively knew they were too slow for an unassisted air restart and at least tried something that may have worked, like opening the APU bleed to assist in a restart. Or advancing both thrust levers to TOGA to see if either engine could produce more than the IDLE that they were set to.

The outcome could have been different.

Sully did a fine job with what he had, no argument. Skiles was in over his head, disappointing considering he is a former Capt.

In their defense however, when it became apparent they were committed to an off airport landing, they did not allow themselves to be distracted from flying the airplane. I'm just not convinced (from my interpretation of the CVR data released by the NTSB-my only source of info) it necessarily needed to be an off-airport landing.
 

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The CVR transcript shows them following the checklist that would call for thrust levers to be at idle for a restart. They never mention pushing them up.
 
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