USA Jet for Sale

[pilotyip]

thread drift?

 

[kingaira90]

Avbug-

Every single time I flew an ambo flight we had skilled and qualified medical personnel on board, was your experience different? How can you compare a sick patient with skilled professionals on board, to a pax flight where a regular passenger takes a turn for the worse and very well may die if you don't get them to help fast enough?

Also, do you EVER back down or apologize? I certainly have not read all of your posts but I cannot recall you ever saying you were wrong or misspoke or are sorry. Hopefully you are not as aggressive in your personnel life.

-kingaira90

 

[TWA]

Let it go, just let it go.

 

[cherry20's]

So I hear USA JET is for sale? Heard that somewhere a long time ago...

 

[ABUSED PILOT]

Cherry I Am Sorry You Got The Wrong Information From Porky. She Hides Behind Her Posts And Passes Out Information That Is Just Not True. One Must Ask What Is The Source For Any Rumor. Usajet Is Trying Hard To Expand Their Business, And I Just Hope They Can Do It Fast Enough To Recall All Terminated Pilots. Things Are Starting To Look Up For The Jet.

 

[avbug]

Every single time I flew an ambo flight we had skilled and qualified medical personnel on board, was your experience different? How can you compare a sick patient with skilled professionals on board, to a pax flight where a regular passenger takes a turn for the worse and very well may die if you don't get them to help fast enough?

How many times in one's airline career does one have a medical emergency on board and find it necessary to get on the ground ASAP? The poster above seems to indicate it happens frequently to him, an apparent disaster and calamity magnet. (Remember, "Lord knows how often...")?

When one has a medical problem on board, one doesn't rush to the round ASAP. One flies the procedures, requests priority, and flies the airplane with only one purpose in mind; safety of flight. The hero mentality that causes some to rush through traffic is ridiculous, the mentality which demands getting to the ground in a big hurry, ASAP...a panic effort. You're not a doctor, you're a pilot; fly the procedure, do as ATC directs, land calmly and without rush. Rushing to get on the ground? I haven't seen a flight yet which has to be made, nor one that ought to be rushed.

Crikey; even most emergency services on the ground today don't permit their departmental vehicles to exceed 5-10 mph over the posted speed limit, by policy. Rushing to the ground? Unprofessional and inappropriate. If one's finding this to be a common occurence, especially as an airline pilot, then one is operating in a universe that doesn't exist for most of us...even those of us that have spent much of our careers in emergency operations.

You just received a well-deserved bitch slap from several posters and that's your erudite comeback? D-u-d-e!

Ah, it's you again. Slapped by a 14 year old really doesn't count for much more than an annoyance...and you...you're still haven't managed to crawl back from your pathetic poor research, bellymeister...did you educate yourself yet?

Fact is, it upsets you, and many others here, to be told that sitting in an air conditioned office high in the flight levels while pressing the occasional button...isn't really work. Employment yes, but work. Truth hurts, and all the whining and bleating to the contrary doesn't change it.

Thread drift? That happened several pages ago, perpetuated in a discussion between a member of USA Jet management and others in this thread. This is just a continuation thereof.

Some of you are truly amusing. The indignant self-righteousness when the newspapers don't deliver a rousing tribute to the challenging glory of pilot life. The idiotic, immature, unprofessional bouts of threats of violence over "guppy killer" stickers, the honest-to-goodness statements by some here who insist that they're a better person than the man on the street...because they fly. It really damages that image to learn that you may not be working as hard as the man "beneath" you who works three times as hard for a quarter the pay...and upon whose back you ride in your little office in the sky. Well, that's just tough.

Truth hurts. Deal with it.

 

[Way2Broke]

Main Entry:em·ploy·ment Pronunciation: \im-ˈplȯi-mənt\ Function:noun Date:15th century 1: use, purpose2 a: activity in which one engages or is employed <seeking gainful employment> b: an instance of such activity3: the act of employing : the state of being employed <employment of a pen in sketching>synonyms see work

Main Entry:1work Pronunciation: \ˈwərk\ Function:noun Etymology:Middle English werk, work, from Old English werc, weorc; akin to Old High German werc work, Greek ergon, Avestan varəzem activityDate:before 12th century 1: activity in which one exerts strength or faculties to do or perform something: a: sustained physical or mental effort to overcome obstacles and achieve an objective or result b: the labor, task, or duty that is one's accustomed means of livelihood c: a specific task, duty, function, or assignment often being a part or phase of some larger activity 2 a: energy expended by natural phenomena b: the result of such energy <sand dunes are the work of sea and wind> c: the transference of energy that is produced by the motion of the point of application of a force and is measured by multiplying the force and the displacement of its point of application in the line of action3 a: something that results from a particular manner or method of working, operating, or devising <careful police work> <clever camera work> b: something that results from the use or fashioning of a particular material <porcelain work>4 a: a fortified structure (as a fort, earthen barricade, or trench) bplural : structures in engineering (as docks, bridges, or embankments) or mining (as shafts or tunnels)5plural but sing or plural in constr : a place where industrial labor is carried on : plant, factory6plural : the working or moving parts of a mechanism <the works of a clock>7 a: something produced or accomplished by effort, exertion, or exercise of skill <this book is the work of many hands> b: something produced by the exercise of creative talent or expenditure of creative effort : artistic production <an early work by a major writer>8plural : performance of moral or religious acts <salvation by works>9 a: effective operation : effect, result <wait for time to do its healing work> b: manner of working : workmanship, execution10: the material or piece of material that is operated upon at any stage in the process of manufacture11plural a: everything possessed, available, or belonging <the whole works, rod, reel, tackle box, went overboard> <ordered pizza with the works> b: subjection to drastic treatment : all possible abuse —usually used with get<get the works> or give<gave them the works>
— at work 1: engaged in working : busy; especially : engaged in one's regular occupation2: having effect : operating, functioning

— in the works : in process of preparation, development, or completion

— in work 1: in process of being done2of a horse : in training

— out of work : without regular employment : jobless

synonyms work, labor, travail, toil, drudgery, grind mean activity involving effort or exertion. work may imply activity of body, of mind, of a machine, or of a natural force <too tired to do any work>. labor applies to physical or intellectual work involving great and often strenuous exertion <farmers demanding fair compensation for their labor>. travail is bookish for labor involving pain or suffering <years of travail were lost when the house burned>. toil implies prolonged and fatiguing labor <his lot would be years of back-breaking toil>. drudgery suggests dull and irksome labor <an editorial job with a good deal of drudgery>. grind implies labor exhausting to mind or body <the grind of the assembly line>.
synonyms work, employment, occupation, calling, pursuit, métier, business mean a specific sustained activity engaged in especially in earning one's living. work may apply to any purposeful activity whether remunerative or not <her work as a hospital volunteer>. employment implies work for which one has been engaged and is being paid by an employer <your employment with this firm is hereby terminated>. occupation implies work in which one engages regularly especially as a result of training <his occupation as a trained auto mechanic>. calling applies to an occupation viewed as a vocation or profession <the ministry seemed my true calling>. pursuit suggests a trade, profession, or avocation followed with zeal or steady interest <her family considered medicine the only proper pursuit>. métier implies a calling or pursuit for which one believes oneself to be especially fitted <acting was my one and only métier>. business suggests activity in commerce or the management of money and affairs <the business of managing a hotel>.

 

[Way2Broke]

Main Entry:1la·bor Pronunciation: \ˈlā-bər\ Function:noun Etymology:Middle English, from Anglo-French labur, from Latin labor; perhaps akin to Latin labare to totter, labi to slip — more at sleepDate:14th century 1 a: expenditure of physical or mental effort especially when difficult or compulsory b (1): human activity that provides the goods or services in an economy (2): the services performed by workers for wages as distinguished from those rendered by entrepreneurs for profits c: the physical activities (as dilation of the cervix and contraction of the uterus) involved in giving birth; also : the period of such labor2: an act or process requiring labor : task3: a product of labor4 a: an economic group comprising those who do manual labor or work for wages b (1): workers employed in an establishment (2): workers available for employment c: the organizations or officials representing groups of workers5usually Labour : the Labour party of the United Kingdom or of another part of the Commonwealth of Nationssynonyms see work




The bottom line here is employment and work are the same thing and you are arguing a social interpretation of the word work, which is highly objective. For example, a doctor may not physically exert him or herself in their occupation frequently, however, they are still working and have studied vigorously in the the past to obtain the skill set required to safely execute their job. A ditch digger, while not requiring the same type of education is still working when laboring at their place of employment. You might argue that there is a difference between employment and labor, in which case again Websters again says your wrong. If we are going to argue here let's at least argue something worth arguing. I see your point, but the way you are arguing it is incorrect, because put simply, being a pilot is work, however, it may not be as physically exerting as some other types of employment. Even this can be argued though, because pilots load and offload heavy cargo in cramped conditions in extreme hot or cold. During this part of a pilots job levels of physical exertion can rival that of a ditch digger.

Can we get back on subject now? The subject here is if USA Jet is for sell, and if it is for sell, what is for sell. We are also discussing if there will be more layoffs in the short term future at USA Jet, and what is the best plan for those that may be affected by such layoffs. We might even be discussing if Porky is a viable source for such information. Carry on.

 

[TWA]

Arguing on the internet is like being in the Special Olympics, even if you win, you're still retarded.

 

[Buckeye]

True but at least you got to go. Sorry you never medaled.