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No, it is called debate. I gave you my thinking on why some of your hubs would be unlikely for service to China, due to hub constraints, other cities nearby already having service, etc. I also gave a great reason why ATL should and will have it, since it is the busiest hub in the World with great connections. If you can't answer my question with solid answers, just state that. Many people cannot. I don't think Doug Parker could answer my question either, since he is probably busy right now with other issues. I can understand why he threw your airline in the ring for those slots though, because some slight chance is better than no chance. Just like the bid for Delta...
Bye Bye--General Lee
Once again, good luck with your international expansion plans. I believe AWA tried it once before. I hope it works out better for you this time. Perhaps you'll have a shot at a China route next go round when then A340s are on your certificate.
Don't get your panties in a wad General I did answer your question. PHX was the original hub we heard but LAS could also be the one. MAJOR tourist city LAS much more so than hotlanta!! Now when the Chinese com to america, I am sure that A town is on the top of their list. Now it NYC, LAX and that's right what General Las Vegas!
Now the merger deal is over and you guys are still several miles behind enemy lines when it come to a future of the carrier. I do wish you all the best and hope that DAL can survive this. An airline of that size with only 2 billion worth of exit funds?? That alone should scare you as you burned thru a billion last year alone.
WD.
Don't get your panties in a wad General I did answer your question. PHX was the original hub we heard but LAS could also be the one. MAJOR tourist city LAS much more so than hotlanta!! Now when the Chinese com to america, I am sure that A town is on the top of their list. Now it NYC, LAX and that's right what General Las Vegas!
Now the merger deal is over and you guys are still several miles behind enemy lines when it come to a future of the carrier. I do wish you all the best and hope that DAL can survive this. An airline of that size with only 2 billion worth of exit funds?? That alone should scare you as you burned thru a billion last year alone.
WD.
LAS is a major tourist city. Why, I don't know. ATL is one of the strongest business centers in the U.S. Many major corporations are in ATL. I have a friend who works for The Home Depot in supply chain management and she travels to China about once a quarter. They desperately want direct service from ATL as does Coca Cola. A LAS type city is currently being built in Hong Kong I believe and the Chinese can play slots there rather than travel halfway across the world to sit next to the fat trailer trash that kicks it in LAS on the weekends. What a disgusting place.
Just wondering how much the combined 3 trips into BK cost US Airways?
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LAS is a major tourist city. Why, I don't know. ATL is one of the strongest business centers in the U.S. Many major corporations are in ATL. I have a friend who works for The Home Depot in supply chain management and she travels to China about once a quarter. They desperately want direct service from ATL as does Coca Cola. A LAS type city is currently being built in Hong Kong I believe and the Chinese can play slots there rather than travel halfway across the world to sit next to the fat trailer trash that kicks it in LAS on the weekends. What a disgusting place.
LAS is a little more than gaming, many come for the shows as well not to mention only an hour away from LAX not the 4hrplus flight from A town. As for it being disgusting, that's a personal preference however the millions that travel there every year would tend to disagree with you. In terms of a business center Atown is the winner but when tourisim is the key LAS is the answer to the question. 1hr from LAX 1hr from SFO and for company purposes 1 hr from PHX!! I think this is really going to get interesting.
WD.
Man, you are way underestimating ATL and tourism. Don't forget, we have "The Big Chicken"! Both cities would do China well for different reasons. You pilots need to focus on big raises so we have something to shoot for in a few years.
Ok blood, you got me on that on, I need to sit down before I ask. What the hell is the big chicken?? I love Atown myself, and you are correct both locations could do pretty well for different reasons.
WD.
That's something you would really have to ask the east side folks as it was twice over there and once here in the west. We are out of the woods as far as that is concerned and proving that we have a solid business plan.
WD.
An airline of that size with only 2 billion worth of exit funds??
$2.5B was all we needed, we didn't have to borrow much in BK, so we didn't have to borrow much to exit.
That alone should scare you as you burned thru a billion last year alone.
WD.
Nope.Didn't AWA use to fly in Australia?
A handful, yes. So what? Every major airline has a few scabs.Come thinking about it, quite a few of their pilots are on the "scab list"?
Nope.A handful, yes. So what? Every major airline has a few scabs.
Ok, but I'm asking YOU WD, How much did you guys lose during your COMBINED 3 TRIPS. AWA had 1 trip, and how much money did they lose? I WILL LOOK INTO THAT INFO FOR YOU BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT FIGURES.
I guess you forgot about that ATSB loan that saved awa from liquidation?
No I didn't forget about the atsb loans and no we were not liquidating at that point. Look at AWA like chrysler corp. It did what it had to and now it's one of the strongest carriers in the game!!!!
Is part of that "solid business plan" putting together a hasty request to the doj to fly to china with equipment you don't even have, pilots not trained, and asking them to defer another airlines already filed application?
Come on WD, I think you're smarter than that! Well maybe not! First off don't hate the player hate the game!! Now like i've said several time before the a/c are not a problem A340's from air Canada difference training for A330 pilots and short course for the other airbus pilots. This is all business and nothing more, I understand that you're upset but get over it bro it ain't all about you... Big money game big money moves.
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You truly live a sheltered life. The Big Chicken sits atop the KFC in Marietta. Its huge and the beak moves. It is always referenced when giving directions anywhere in the Marietta area. Just imagine the photo opportunities for the Chinese! Its up there in significance with the great wall.
http://roadsidegeorgia.com/site/bigchicken.html
That's my wife. It's on purpose that all our features are indiscernable; too many people like you around.TWADude, do you and your boyfriend do a lot of mt. biking?
Wiskey good to see you're having fun still with the Delta guys. I can only stand small doses of their brilliance. Thank goodness I won't be flying with them. I could just imagine the cockpit talk. HP-so what do you think about Barack Obama? 737 Plt-He's one of them thar terrorists isn't he. I hates em. O what joys that would have been.
That's my wife. It's on purpose that all our features are indiscernable; too many people like you around.
I imagine the cactus cockpit talk goes something like this:
Hpilot:"well, my boyfriend and I couldn't decide on whether to go with pink satin, or baby blue curtains."
Pxhflyr: "I don't worry about curtains, my boyfriend and I are exhibitionists!"
Hpilot: I hear ya, do ya wanna hold hands again, there's bad weather ahead.
Phxflyr: No, just give me a hug!
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Wiskey good to see you're having fun still with the Delta guys. I can only stand small doses of their brilliance. Thank goodness I won't be flying with them. I could just imagine the cockpit talk. HP-so what do you think about Barack Obama? 737 Plt-He's one of them thar terrorists isn't he. I hates em. O what joys that would have been.
Two imported beers and one scotch -- so far. I'm sorry; what was the question?Why did you even respond to that non sense?
Don't say I didn't warn you about PHYFLYR!! Sometimes it's better to let sleeping dogs lie. I can guess that he's gonna light your azz up now:bomb:
WD
Based on his "alternative lifestyle" I wouldn't bet he'd like to try, but I don't date pilots!
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Based on his "alternative lifestyle" I wouldn't bet he'd like to try, but I don't date pilots!
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No orders or current fleet type able to fly such a route, I'm sure they have a shot!![]()
I imagine the cactus cockpit talk goes something like this:
Hpilot:"well, my boyfriend and I couldn't decide on whether to go with pink satin, or baby blue curtains."
Pxhflyr: "I don't worry about curtains, my boyfriend and I are exhibitionists!"
Hpilot: I hear ya, do ya wanna hold hands again, there's bad weather ahead.
Phxflyr: No, just give me a hug!
737