US Airways Pilot Pool and Hiring

[charlie2]

Any new information on the pilot window?

Not sure if this info has been passed but I'll post anyway. Bumped into a Captain who does interviews this afternoon. He said a few weeks ago they interviewed a bunch that came from the last time the app window was open. One week after they interviewed those who were selected got a call inviting them to a July 16 class. He said they still have about 100 people they selected from that window that will be called for an interview NEXT week. His opinion was that they will go through that 100 fast and will have to open another window sooner than they thought.

 

[St. Nic]

300 a year hiring- all East. Shrinking Phoenix and keeping it that way

 

[cactusboy53]

300 a year hiring- all East. Shrinking Phoenix and keeping it that way

DOH is a loser. Judge Silver to rule soon. Delay has cost you a bunch.

Hiring east this year. All bases next year. GREAT group of folks to work with! Phoenix is the home of the airline (for the time being). Economy & housing now improving. Best time to be in training: October - March!

How you been Nicky boy? Still grinding that stone, I see. :crying:

 

[dollacrackho]

I'm new and in no way an east cheerleader but if this merger does go through and everyone pretty much agrees on doh are the westies gonna start screaming "nic, nic" !! Or are they gonna stfu and let everything happen as it should?

 

[cactusboy53]

I'm new and in no way an east cheerleader (really?) but if this merger does go through and everyone pretty much agrees on doh are the westies gonna start screaming "nic, nic" !! Or are they gonna stfu (really?, nice.) and let everything happen as it should? (really? your opinion.)[/QUOTE]

DOH won't happen with this merger. The merger process will be lawfully fulfilled via the Bond/McCaskill legislation (which mirrors ALPA merger policy). If you went by DOH, then you would have to include TWA, Reno Air, AirCal, Empire, Piedmont & Shuttle (to name several).

The westies went into a legal process as determined by the ALPA merger policy where an independent federal arbitrator determined seniority with two pilot neutrals. The company accepted the list and paid both MEC's around $300,000 in promised funds. The "screaming" you speak of came from the junior east pilots that were furloughed when US Air was acquired by America West Holdings. After returning to the New US Airways, they sought to vote in a new independent union (for the purpose of evading the Nicolau seniority arbitration). USAPA officers & committee staff largely comprises of those junior US Air pilots.

All of these factual statements are verifiable in all the court proceedings & documents. You can research them yourself at: www.cactuspilot.com (Key documents & Library).

The law will finish this debacle. Period. BTW, it you're not a "chearleader", exactly who do you work for? Just curious.

 

[weasel_lips]

What a load of crap.

 

[charlie2]

I'm new and in no way an east cheerleader (really?) but if this merger does go through and everyone pretty much agrees on doh are the westies gonna start screaming "nic, nic" !! Or are they gonna stfu (really?, nice.) and let everything happen as it should? (really? your opinion.)[/QUOTE]

DOH won't happen with this merger. The merger process will be lawfully fulfilled via the Bond/McCaskill legislation (which mirrors ALPA merger policy). If you went by DOH, then you would have to include TWA, Reno Air, AirCal, Empire, Piedmont & Shuttle (to name several).

The westies went into a legal process as determined by the ALPA merger policy where an independent federal arbitrator determined seniority with two pilot neutrals. The company accepted the list and paid both MEC's around $300,000 in promised funds. The "screaming" you speak of came from the junior east pilots that were furloughed when US Air was acquired by America West Holdings. After returning to the New US Airways, they sought to vote in a new independent union (for the purpose of evading the Nicolau seniority arbitration). USAPA officers & committee staff largely comprises of those junior US Air pilots.

All of these factual statements are verifiable in all the court proceedings & documents. You can research them yourself at: www.cactuspilot.com (Key documents & Library).

The law will finish this debacle. Period. BTW, it you're not a "chearleader", exactly who do you work for? Just curious.

"mirrors ALPA merger policy" ha ha ha ha ha ha you mean the one about no windfalls? Ha ha ha ha haha ha ha the one with no windfalls ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. We're going to appeal Silver's decision and that wont take but a year or two so Cboy53 how you liken the nic so far?"

 

[charlie2]

I'm new and in no way an east cheerleader (really?) but if this merger does go through and everyone pretty much agrees on doh are the westies gonna start screaming "nic, nic" !! Or are they gonna stfu (really?, nice.) and let everything happen as it should? (really? your opinion.)[/QUOTE]

DOH won't happen with this merger. The merger process will be lawfully fulfilled via the Bond/McCaskill legislation (which mirrors ALPA merger policy). If you went by DOH, then you would have to include TWA, Reno Air, AirCal, Empire, Piedmont & Shuttle (to name several).

The westies went into a legal process as determined by the ALPA merger policy where an independent federal arbitrator determined seniority with two pilot neutrals. The company accepted the list and paid both MEC's around $300,000 in promised funds. The "screaming" you speak of came from the junior east pilots that were furloughed when US Air was acquired by America West Holdings. After returning to the New US Airways, they sought to vote in a new independent union (for the purpose of evading the Nicolau seniority arbitration). USAPA officers & committee staff largely comprises of those junior US Air pilots.

All of these factual statements are verifiable in all the court proceedings & documents. You can research them yourself at: www.cactuspilot.com (Key documents & Library).

The law will finish this debacle. Period. BTW, it you're not a "chearleader", exactly who do you work for? Just curious.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and THEN we have ratify a contract to make your new hires my captain ha h ah ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...you'll get what you want as I'm retiring in ten years...ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

 

[Golden Falcon]

Beginning to sound like a song by Moby..

 

[Flyer1015]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and THEN we have ratify a contract to make your new hires my captain ha h ah ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...you'll get what you want as I'm retiring in ten years...ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Retiring on the Bus at $125/hr but hey, you're Captain. I'm not sure if you're laughing at yourself or not?

 

[pave driver]

I've asked this before and will here again. Does anyone know if Parker received an approval for a new separate America West certificate? The rumor I've heard is that he wants to integrate the original US Airways with American to avoid past labor problems. I have heard this more the once and need to find where to get information on this. Thanks.

 

[St. Nic]

I've asked this before and will here again. Does anyone know if Parker received an approval for a new separate America West certificate? The rumor I've heard is that he wants to integrate the original US Airways with American to avoid past labor problems. I have heard this more the once and need to find where to get information on this. Thanks.

The west is being spinned off to Republic- the rumer is true. You heard it here first

 

[CheapFlyer]

The west is being spinned off to Republic- the rumer is true. You heard it here first

That's funny stuff.

 

[pave driver]

St. Nic,

If I wanted a childish response I'll ask my kids. Anyone else know where to find this information?

 

[Flybywire44]

The Nic is conditional on an East/West TA that will never happen.

Now we have a CLA that includes APA as third party not interested in Nicoli's arbitrated seniority award.

Per age 65, AMR/US Air will retire 4234 pilots in the next 8 years—America West pilots will be fine either way. :smash:

 

[Flyer1015]

The west is being spinned off to Republic- the rumer is true. You heard it here first __________________
DOH = gold standard

If DOH is the gold standard, one must wonder what would happen in the next 7 years when half the current East group ends up retiring due to age 65? Their seats will be replaced by newhire US Air pilots from the regionals/military/corporate/etc, and they will be at the bottom of the list. The Am West pilots + the newhire US Air pilots will, one day in the next 7 years, outnumber the number of original older US Air guys. Once that happens, isn't the tide going to change back against the favor of USAPA? And then when the East oldies don't hold majority, won't the Nic award be implemented?

 

[St. Nic]

St. Nic,

If I wanted a childish response I'll ask my kids. Anyone else know where to find this information?

It was a real answer bubba

 

[Flybywire44]

If DOH is the gold standard, one must wonder what would happen in the next 7 years when half the current East group ends up retiring due to age 65? Their seats will be replaced by newhire US Air pilots from the regionals/military/corporate/etc, and they will be at the bottom of the list. The Am West pilots + the newhire US Air pilots will, one day in the next 7 years, outnumber the number of original older US Air guys. Once that happens, isn't the tide going to change back against the favor of USAPA? And then when the East oldies don't hold majority, won't the Nic award be implemented?

You're saying that the retirements of East pilots will allow for an appeal later?

Doubtful, Nic will either be implemented before the merger or never.

 

[St. Nic]

The Nic is conditional on an East/West TA that will never happen.

Now we have a CLA that includes APA as third party not interested in Nicoli's arbitrated seniority award.

Ding dong the wicked NIC is dead!

 

[wms]

This thread has taken an unexpected turn.