US Airways passengers and baggage stranded

[Dodge]

IF this was a sickout by AFA, I would say about time someone at UAIR stood up for themselves. I recently talked to a NWA pilot and he was mad as he11 that the USAIR pilots keep driving down his profession. He said that even though NWA is not in BK court, NWA says they will be if they don't match UAL and USAIR crew costs.

As crappy as it was for the Eastern guys, many of them did get hired on at other majors and retired as captains without watering down the profession for everyone else in the process. Now, UAIR will most likely go down for good, even with all the concessions. As the NWA pilot said, "too bad it couldn't of happened before they ruined it for us too."

 

[BeCareful!]

Boy, do people have short memories. All of this happened in December, 2001, as well. Sure, the company furloughed some 400 pilots on one day, and then asked some of them to fly into their furloughs because they were on trips. Now, that was kinda lame, but so is the current situation, with contentious labor contracts being negotiated during the Hoidays, and the company spewing fear and doom nonstop, which of course makes people not give @ s#!t.

Real, experienced leadership is the only thing that will cure these problems. USAir is going to survive, though. None of this is enough to bring the system down for good, it just makes good newspaper copy.

I flew 48 people to Knoxville on Christmas Eve. We were two hours late because we were waiting on a Flight Attendant, but as we taxied in at midnight she had the pax singing Christmas carols!! Everyone de-planed happy, and they were very complimentary of our (PSA) service.

It's stories like this that keep people coming back, and, trust me, they are the stories you'll never read about in USA Today, Post Gazzette, et al.........

 

[sleepy]

The FAA should just shut USAir down. It is just plain silly to let them continue to operate if this is the best that they can do during the busiest travel time of the year.

 

[BeCareful!]

Yeah, Sleepy, that's it! Comair cancels 1100 flights, but U loses a few bgs and has a minor sickout, and you think the FAA should just pull the plug!

Yeah, that's a good use of my tax dollars.

 

[Tristar]

What you've quoted above has little to do with and employee calling in sick with the squirts, a headache, or a cold that is gone two days later. People should be able to work with those medical inconveniences. I've done it for years.

I'm sure you have, but you don't work in an environment which is subject to pressure changes (can't work with a cold that blocks the ears or sinuses), or subject to the regulation of the FAA (pilots can't work with ANY condition which would render their medical invalid). There's a tad more involved in moving 100 tons of aircraft around than preventing paper cuts and not spilling your coffee.

 

[miles otoole]

I'm sure you have, but you don't work in an environment which is subject to pressure changes (can't work with a cold that blocks the ears or sinuses), or subject to the regulation of the FAA (pilots can't work with ANY condition which would render their medical invalid). There's a tad more involved in moving 100 tons of aircraft around than preventing paper cuts and not spilling your coffee.

Right! How many times have you flown with a pilot who has the flu and 102 degree fever? I have plenty of times-very selfish. Pilots in general will do what suits their particular needs-no more, no less. If it means making an extra 500 beans, they'll do it.

 

[CRJDog]

Why are people buying tickets on a carrier that is in ch. 11? It would make sense to me that employees losing everthing they have worked for would just say "f*ck it" and stay home with the Family.

I think this is a problem at every carrier, this time of year. Just a little worst at US Airways... or a little worst in the public eye with all the press.

You're kidding right?

 

[sleepy]

Yeah, Sleepy, that's it! Comair cancels 1100 flights, but U loses a few bgs and has a minor sickout, and you think the FAA should just pull the plug!

Yeah, that's a good use of my tax dollars.

It is a good use of our tax dollars. Something has to go to help save the other airlines. If we can get rid if USAir's capacity, then maybe the rest of the legacy carriers can make it. I am sorry, but somebody has to go. This is really just the writing on the wall, USAir is done!

It was more than just a few misplaced bags BTW. It was a self-induced disaster.

 

[Draginass]

Yeah, Sleepy, that's it! Comair cancels 1100 flights, but U loses a few bgs and has a minor sickout, and you think the FAA should just pull the plug!

Yeah, that's a good use of my tax dollars.

There comes a time when the labor atmosphere becomes so poisoned that one has to question safety aspects of the operation. I think we're there.

 

[Tristar]

Right! How many times have you flown with a pilot who has the flu and 102 degree fever? I have plenty of times-very selfish. Pilots in general will do what suits their particular needs-no more, no less. If it means making an extra 500 beans, they'll do it.

I know it happens, but that doesn't make it right or technically legal. I was merely pointing out yet another area in which Low has no clue about aircraft/airline operations (which would appear to be a prerequisite to be an anal-linguist or whatever title he gives himself).