US Airways Management and America West Pilots to Open Separate Negotiations

[Rez O. Lewshun]

you can start by looking in the mirror.

what was the scabs name joey?

 

[JoeMerchant]

what was the scabs name joey?

Jay Panarello....then CAL MEC Chairman.....

 

[cactusboy53]

Didn't ALPA file a lawsuit against the binding arbitration in the Alaska arbitration.....I guess "binding is binding" only applies when ALPA agrees.....

Joe;
That was between an employer and an ALPA represented group.

The ALPA Merger policy is "hands-off", so as to keep ALPA National in a neutral position. The merger policy has been called vague, but IF cooler minds prevail a fair and equitable list can be achieved through negotiations or mediation. Unfortunately, cooler minds rarely prevail.

In this instance, one party went in with an approximate relative seniority stance with fences. The other party sang to the high heavens for DOH and or LOS. They were advised time and time again that they would not be awarded DOH or LOS if the case went to arbitration.

Finally, according to ALPA Merger policy: ALPA National is to ACCEPT THE FINAL AND BINDING LIST, DELIVER THE LIST AND DEFEND THE LIST.

While we now fight over union representation at the new LCC, the window for significant contract improvements has quite nearly closed.....all for that most important Date of Hire! How unfortunate.....

 

[cactusboy53]

I heard that the call sign issue has been cleared up. Here's the new call sign:

CACTUSFOLLOWSOUTHWEST

 

[JoeMerchant]

Joe;
That was between an employer and an ALPA represented group.

I understand that....but it was still a case of ALPA opposing a "binding arbitration"......If something harms you...you will still fight it regardless of "binding arbitration".....Did the USAir MEC make mistakes over the years....You bet....

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I understand that....but it was still a case of ALPA opposing a "binding arbitration"......If something harms you...you will still fight it regardless of "binding arbitration".....Did the USAir MEC make mistakes over the years....You bet....

recall this is all based on your perception of "right". but more importantly if your perception of "right" is not agreed upon, then you pack marbles and go home....

 

[Tejas-Jet]

He's on the SCAB side.

Still no picket line....

 

[Joey Bagodonutz]

It's pretty obvious to most people in this industry that the USAPA supporters are involved in "scab like activity".

 

[Bringupthebird]

Doesn't a scab try to take unfair advantage of a pilot who is fully participating in the established union's activity and do irreparable harm to that pilot? Doesn't a scab circumvent the established union's mandate so as to advance their career over that of a fellow union member?

If you don't want to call a USAPA supporter a scab, then don't. But you can't ignore what they're doing.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Doesn't a scab try to take unfair advantage of a pilot who is fully participating in the established union's activity and do irreparable harm to that pilot? Doesn't a scab circumvent the established union's mandate so as to advance their career over that of a fellow union member?

If you don't want to call a USAPA supporter a scab, then don't. But you can't ignore what they're doing.

....they have a disagreement with ALPA.....much like you have had in the past.....
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