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ERfly said:
Hey USAir guys,

Any reason why you guys insist on saying "Cat P**s" as your callsign when you fly? I taxied out behind you guys this morning all it did was make you sound childish. You guys weren't even trying to hide it. In fact, you enunciated it!
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They will probably stop saying "Cat Piss" right around the time AWA pilots stop telling people they work for the company "formerly know as America West".
 
I'd like to hear what a 61 year-old interviewing for his next airline job says once he finishes screwing this one into the ground:

"I think what I miss most about USAirways was the people. They were good people. Oh, them? They were no da-- good. No, them neither, but everyone else-, I mean except those guys from... And those guys from ----- screwed us good!!!!

Can you excuse me please, need to go cool off."

Yeah, interviews for these poor souls should be a hoot!
 
Funny, but don't think most that are 61 will have too much to worry about. Even with those LOA 93 rates the west keeps trying to throw in the east faces, most of the guys are fairly well off somehow. Sure there's a few that aren't, but most I've talked to could hang it up now w/o a problem. But the paycheck is still pretty good for what they do. Hmmmm....how can that be so??? Oh yeah, the east is at it's lowest levels ever, while the west is at their HIGHEST levels ever, and uhmm...there isn't THAT big of a seperation between pay. Sure there is a chunk there, but looking back over their careers, they have definately made more than the the average West guy, and the past 5 years is definately not indicitive of what they pay was or potential earnings....

So I'd like to hear what the westie would sound like interviewing for that job.

Mannn...I had that there lottery ticket. I'm telling you, those old geezers thougt they knew everything. Heck, they been around so long they''ve forgotten more things thant what I even thought of thinking of. But you see here, I'm young, I'm smarter, ya that's right, and I have a birth right to be given what I want. You see my company was inherently better off because I gave them the graciousnous to work for them. They were superstars 'cause I am a superstar. You see, you hire me, and your company will became great, money rolling in everywhere. Ya Ya, those old guys, nahhhh they ain't got no experience worth nothing. You hire me and all your troubles will be taken care of......
 
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Crzipilot said:
Funny, but don't think most that are 61 will have too much to worry about. Even with those LOA 93 rates the west keeps trying to throw in the east faces, most of the guys are fairly well off somehow. Sure there's a few that aren't, but most I've talked to could hang it up now w/o a problem. But the paycheck is still pretty good for what they do. Hmmmm....how can that be so??? Oh yeah, the east is at it's lowest levels ever, while the west is at their HIGHEST levels ever, and uhmm...there isn't THAT big of a seperation between pay. Sure there is a chunk there, but looking back over their careers, they have definately made more than the the average West guy, and the past 5 years is definately not indicitive of what they pay was or potential earnings....
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How is that the case and yet most of the East pilots still think they are entitled to everything at the West's expense? Furthermore, I'm pretty sure the West pilots would have made considerably more than the Easties on unemployment had Doug just let the Company liquidate.

Crzipilot said:
So I'd like to hear what the westie would sound like interviewing for that job.

Mannn...I had that there lottery ticket. I'm telling you, those old geezers thought they knew everything. Heck, they been around so long they've forgotten more things then what I even thought of thinking of. But you see here, I'm young, I'm smarter, ya that's right, and I have a birth right to be given what I want. You see my company was inherently better off because I gave them the graciousness to work for them. They were superstars 'cause I am a superstar. You see, you hire me, and your company will became great, money rolling in everywhere. Ya Ya, those old guys, nahhhh they ain't got no experience worth nothing. You hire me and all your troubles will be taken care of......
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1. Don't drink and post.
2. Spell check. I've fixed and highlighted your mistakes. Evidently, you've also forgotten more about spelling then "inexperienced West Pilots" ever know.
3. I think most of the furloughed West pilots just tell an interviewer:
"Well, sir, I wanted to work at America West because it was a really great place to work. Then we merged (*I use that term loosely) with USAir and were forced to adopt their philosophies on misery loving company. The NEW USAir never had a chance to become anything other then what what the OLD USAir had evolved into. Actually, getting furloughed from that toxic environment was probably a gift. Life's too short to be miserable all the time.
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Followed shortly by:
Why, yes, I CAN start immediately."
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I think that's pretty much all you have to say to anyone who hasn't lived on another planet for the last 10 years. They'll understand.
 
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Hmmm...first off. Could give a jack ******************** less about spelling nor grammer. I'm not a copywrite, english teacher or writing a GD thesis on the internet.

Hmmm....This has to be one of the best quotes of the year yet...

"I wanted to work at America West because it was a great place to work"

Well considering, lets see. Hmm...pre 9/11 Most people RAN from AW. Post 9/11 Well, If i remember correctly they were about the only one hiring. So when one has a choice between Mesa, or Mesa Grande....I guess alot of people took the Grande.... Though I believe some took the unemployment after looking at what a Great company AW was in 2002/03

And if your such a grammar cop, go back and tell me where I was talking about anything regarding the Experience level of a west pilot in my previous quote. I was however complementing the East on their longer time in the industry, which traditionally translates to, Uhmmm......Experience....

Looks more like some inherrent insecurities on your part regarding whatever experience level you may have.......
 
The East pilot has worked for 20 years at the former AAA and was laid off for 8 to 10 years and on reserve for most of the time when employed by AAA. The West pilot worked the last 10-12 years at the old AWA flying the whole time, upgrading if they desired, logging 600-900 hours a year. So the East has more experience at reserve and unemployement lines! Much like the instructor at a weapons school compared to a grunt who has done several tours, you may have rank, but you do not have experience!

P.S.- How's my spelling, I'm a grad school drop out!
 
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Yup, Looking at that profile of yours there, I can tell you have a boat load of experience there bubba. J31/do328/a320. Boy oh boy oh boy, transversing the soutwestern part of the US sure does build a wealth of experience, I guess I should sit down and learn from that 7000 hours of flying between PHX and SFO....


And if you have 11 yrs at AW, hire date of '98/99??? Then there is 1 or 2 possibilities.
1. You were stuck for whatever reason at AW 10 years ago when everyone else was jumping ship to better paying and better QOL gigs.

2. Your from the Western area, and decided that even with the lower pay etc, you wanted to stay in PHX area, and that AW fit your needs of your life and lifestyle, and hence you stuck it out there.

If number 2, then you can understand the reason for a number of the furloughed guys coming back to US.

Besides we can prob. both agree, nobody ever really wants to become a deltoid....
 
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Who cares who bought who? It was a merger. Nicolau didn't even factor this into his decision. He also didn't put much weight into the financial condition of either airline.

His decision was based on the Pilot Earning Model (PEM) that the West side presented.

Also for Crzipilot to make assertions that the West loses money and the East makes it is asinine.

So when a West crew flies CLT-JFK or CLT-EWR are they losing money?

All US Airways pilots should hope every hub makes money.

Bragging about which side bought who or which side loses money is while the whole ship is sinking is laughable in itself.

Grow up.
 
Ok, Where did I make the proclamation that the West lost money and the East makes it all??? Now has there been a huge pull down out west. Uhmmm..Yup. Few articles talking about vegas being off by a few million passengers.....
 
The discussion of who purchased who or who makes money is water under the bridge. The Nic. list is working its way thru federal court, but the East loves to talk about their "experience"! Baghdad Arnie made several public comments after the Nic. and it was a low blow that some out East want to continue to deliver. I was just pointing out how a 87-88 hire at AAA had possibly less flying experience than a 98 AWA hire in the last 20 years! There are 25 year olds that have more combat experience than us former military soldiers and I am careful to watch what I say so I do not look like a tool to some triple tabber! the East pilots sould watch out when they speak also.
 
johnnyb said:
Sure can't

Vegas visitation hits 26-year low

http://www.gamingtoday.com/industry-news/story.bv?storyid=20181
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What exactly would TODAY'S traffic to any location have to do with the PID date of the merger? Yes in this economy LAS is down. It's down EVERYWHERE....duh. The Merger (wretch) was announced in May 2005, and competed in Sept. 2007. DONE.

No do overs. No looking at todays economy vs. 2007. That is what we are up against. It's going to be a very interesting year in the courts. Hang on to your hats.
 
Crzipilot said:
Funny, but don't think most that are 61 will have too much to worry about. Even with those LOA 93 rates the west keeps trying to throw in the east faces, most of the guys are fairly well off somehow. Sure there's a few that aren't, but most I've talked to could hang it up now w/o a problem. But the paycheck is still pretty good for what they do. Hmmmm....how can that be so??? Oh yeah, the east is at it's lowest levels ever, while the west is at their HIGHEST levels ever, and uhmm...there isn't THAT big of a seperation between pay. Sure there is a chunk there, but looking back over their careers, they have definately made more than the the average West guy, and the past 5 years is definately not indicitive of what they pay was or potential earnings....

So I'd like to hear what the westie would sound like interviewing for that job.

Mannn...I had that there lottery ticket. I'm telling you, those old geezers thougt they knew everything. Heck, they been around so long they''ve forgotten more things thant what I even thought of thinking of. But you see here, I'm young, I'm smarter, ya that's right, and I have a birth right to be given what I want. You see my company was inherently better off because I gave them the graciousnous to work for them. They were superstars 'cause I am a superstar. You see, you hire me, and your company will became great, money rolling in everywhere. Ya Ya, those old guys, nahhhh they ain't got no experience worth nothing. You hire me and all your troubles will be taken care of......
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When you !diots are finished running the new US Airways into the ground what are you going to do? I doubt an uneducated moron such as yourself is going to find work outside aviation.
 
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Us running US into the ground. HELLLLOOOOO have you opened your eyes???

since the Tempe Frat club has gottten ahold of this place, US service on the East coast is a joke. The mojority of the Frequent flyers have fled to Delta and CO. Or at least the majority that actualy get the status awards via butt in the seat flying. Go look on the FF web boards. US sucks for the FF.

The terminals used to be filled with suits and ties. Suits and ties generally mean last minute biz fares etc etc. I used to have a handful of our customers which I became aquainted with out of my home airport. They were flying about as much as I was, commuting on reserve. They have since moved to Delta, as delta is taking care of them.

We fly airplanes. the latest score is I believe a pair of pilots saved this airlines bacon. That's our job, nothing more or less. As long as we don't bend any metal neither of us will run this place in the ground. THAT objective is the frat boys in tempe....So watch where the idoits are...
 
Crzipilot said:
the latest score is I believe a pair of pilots saved this airlines bacon.
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You got that right.

I'm sure most of the Mesa...errr...westie FO's with major airline experience that you could count on one hand could have done a better job, just ask em!

I won't even go into the BUF accident and the experience level in that cockpit.
 
Here I thought they were ordering or talking about a drink. Silly me!!!
My sixth grader doesn't act like this, geez. Maybe they should drink cat p**s.
 
Redmeat said:
You got that right.

I'm sure most of the Mesa...errr...westie FO's with major airline experience that you could count on one hand could have done a better job, just ask em!

I won't even go into the BUF accident and the experience level in that cockpit.
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Does anyone from the much-ballyhooed USAirways really want to discuss accident histories?

From the info below, it appears that US Airways or it's predecessors has wrecked or destroyed virtually every model type aircraft they have ever operated with the exception of the B757 and A330, 319 and 321. And maybe a Stinson.


Allegheny
http://aviation-safety.net/database...ind=%&cat=%&page=1&field=Operatorkey&var=6531

Piedmont
http://aviation-safety.net/database...ind=%&cat=%&page=1&field=Operatorkey&var=4875

PSA
http://aviation-safety.net/database/operator/airline.php?var=4936

USAir
http://aviation-safety.net/database...ind=%&cat=%&page=1&field=Operatorkey&var=4657

USAirways
http://aviation-safety.net/database/operator/airline.php?var=4656

All American Airways
http://aviation-safety.net/database/operator/airline.php?var=6535

Lake Central Airlines
http://aviation-safety.net/database/operator/airline.php?var=5838
 
I just want to clarify my comments, as I said a pair of pilots saved this airlines bacon. yes, we all know what side that pair is from, but my intention was not to classify that incident as being only successful due to east pilots flying that trip.

As anyone will attest to, there could have been a more experienced crew on there and not had the same outcome. It could have been another airline and had the same outcome, Fate was at play a bit there. Both sides have experienced crews, both sides have crews that have something left to desire.

So bottom line, I was trying to point out that the PILOTS, both sides, doing their jobs keep this airline out of trouble regarding that. The running of the airline into the ground, is a management quality.
 
Hello!!
 
Redmeat said:
You got that right.

I'm sure most of the Mesa...errr...westie FO's with major airline experience that you could count on one hand could have done a better job, just ask em!

I won't even go into the BUF accident and the experience level in that cockpit.
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How many pax have AWA pilots killed in the last 3 decades? How about US Air?
 
Crzipilot said:
But you see here, I'm young, I'm smarter, ya that's right, and I have a birth right to be given what I want. You see my company was inherently better off because I gave them the graciousnous to work for them. They were superstars 'cause I am a superstar. You see, you hire me, and your company will became great, money rolling in everywhere. Ya Ya, those old guys, nahhhh they ain't got no experience worth nothing. You hire me and all your troubles will be taken care of......
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looks like you've finally got it figured out Crzi....

Now shouldn't you be drinking a PBR and crying over your lost pension? Or maybe you have a gun fight with an old man over a property line to attend to? I'm sure there's a cockpit somewhere that needs a hole shot through it, or else you could go bury a 737 in the mud while trying to beat those westies to the gate...
 
Green said:
looks like you've finally got it figured out Crzi....

Now shouldn't you be drinking a PBR and crying over your lost pension? Or maybe you have a gun fight with an old man over a property line to attend to? I'm sure there's a cockpit somewhere that needs a hole shot through it, or else you could go bury a 737 in the mud while trying to beat those westies to the gate...
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Nahhh... Think I'd rather go scab down under...
 

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