US Airways Callsign Question

[j32wreck]

the union is on a big push about that kinda stuff

 

[ERfly]

the union is on a big push about that kinda stuff

Sorry I can't remember a flight number, but it was a 737-400 and I think they were headed to CLT. I heard them on ground frequency. They used it from their initial call up until we were switched to tower. Hope this helps.

 

[Crzipilot]

Hmm...the union or the company???? Who knows who Mr 18 posts is running to go tattle tell on.....hahaha

 

[Bringupthebird]

the union is on a big push about that kinda stuff

What union? The pilots at US have a union?

Evidence people, evidence!

 

[BeCareful!]

I heven't heard much of this stupidity on the radio lately....but like mentioned above there's an idiot in every crowd. Lot's of guys say it on the flight deck, but most are professional on the radio.

Oh weeeellllllll......it will all be over some day...... long after we retire.

 

[Airline Driver]

The easties are required to be reminded who purchased them.

This argument has been beat to death time and time again. West says that they bought East, and East says they Bought West. I will say that West was in better financial standing, "but not by far", and if it were not for outside investors to put up the Money to "MERGE" the two airlines together when they did, "Both", carriers would be bankrupt and perhaps not flying today. I will say that it is very interesting what Logo is painted on the side of the airplanes.

Us Airways is comprised of many airlines all merged into one.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Yeah they were both dying anyways...

I like your choice in guitars, by the way.

 

[cactusboy53]

Yeah they were both dying anyways...

I like your choice in guitars, by the way.

Proof please on AWA dieing, or is it just innuendo and conjecture? In May 2005 AWA had a decent amount of cash in the bank, paying off the ATSB loans, was making money Since Q2 or Q3 of 2003 (I believe that is correct), hiring new pilots, upgrading pilots at year 6+, getting new airplanes, and adding new cities. Further, they finished a contract negotiation with the AWA pilot group at the end of 2003 that was to be the first post 9/11 contract that had many improvements.

You just can't argue with facts.

 

[Airline Driver]

Yeah they were both dying anyways...

I like your choice in guitars, by the way.

Thanks man, Nothin' Like a Gibson. Rock On!!!

 

[Airline Driver]

Proof please on AWA dieing, or is it just innuendo and conjecture? In May 2005 AWA had a decent amount of cash in the bank, paying off the ATSB loans, was making money Since Q2 or Q3 of 2003 (I believe that is correct), hiring new pilots, upgrading pilots at year 6+, getting new airplanes, and adding new cities. Further, they finished a contract negotiation with the AWA pilot group at the end of 2003 that was to be the first post 9/11 contract that had many improvements.

You just can't argue with facts.

AWA was in much better financial position than Airways at the time, You are absolutely 100% correct in that statement. You also had Money in the bank at that time, you are also 100% correct in that statement.

However the Money in the bank was dwindling fast. You were not in bankruptcy prior to the merger, but not far from filing. If AWA kept operating with out the merger, it would not have been long before you had to File for CH11.

The Merger was, from a business standpoint, a logical move for investors to save two airlines from the inevitable. Jobs were saved because of it. From a Crew standpoint, It has caused nothing but hard feelings and animosity between the two sides.

 

[get2flyin]

Hey USAir guys,

Any reason why you guys insist on saying "Cat P**s" as your callsign when you fly? I taxied out behind you guys this morning all it did was make you sound childish. You guys weren't even trying to hide it. In fact, you enunciated it!

They will probably stop saying "Cat Piss" right around the time AWA pilots stop telling people they work for the company "formerly know as America West".

 

[SSDD]

Sully didn't have any problem saying "Cactus."

 

[Bringupthebird]

I'd like to hear what a 61 year-old interviewing for his next airline job says once he finishes screwing this one into the ground:

"I think what I miss most about USAirways was the people. They were good people. Oh, them? They were no da-- good. No, them neither, but everyone else-, I mean except those guys from... And those guys from ----- screwed us good!!!!

Can you excuse me please, need to go cool off."

Yeah, interviews for these poor souls should be a hoot!

 

[Crzipilot]

Funny, but don't think most that are 61 will have too much to worry about. Even with those LOA 93 rates the west keeps trying to throw in the east faces, most of the guys are fairly well off somehow. Sure there's a few that aren't, but most I've talked to could hang it up now w/o a problem. But the paycheck is still pretty good for what they do. Hmmmm....how can that be so??? Oh yeah, the east is at it's lowest levels ever, while the west is at their HIGHEST levels ever, and uhmm...there isn't THAT big of a seperation between pay. Sure there is a chunk there, but looking back over their careers, they have definately made more than the the average West guy, and the past 5 years is definately not indicitive of what they pay was or potential earnings....

So I'd like to hear what the westie would sound like interviewing for that job.

Mannn...I had that there lottery ticket. I'm telling you, those old geezers thougt they knew everything. Heck, they been around so long they''ve forgotten more things thant what I even thought of thinking of. But you see here, I'm young, I'm smarter, ya that's right, and I have a birth right to be given what I want. You see my company was inherently better off because I gave them the graciousnous to work for them. They were superstars 'cause I am a superstar. You see, you hire me, and your company will became great, money rolling in everywhere. Ya Ya, those old guys, nahhhh they ain't got no experience worth nothing. You hire me and all your troubles will be taken care of......

 

[johnnyb]

You just can't argue with facts.

Sure can't

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http://www.gamingtoday.com/industry-news/story.bv?storyid=20181

 

[Whine Lover]

" ... in every group there is always an a$$hole...or a fat chick."

Thank God for that small set of facts. Otherwise, many of us never would have found our place in the World, nor would we have ever gotten Laid.


YKMKR

 

[Crzipilot]

Not sure whine, are you praising your lucky stars????

 

[get2flyin]

Funny, but don't think most that are 61 will have too much to worry about. Even with those LOA 93 rates the west keeps trying to throw in the east faces, most of the guys are fairly well off somehow. Sure there's a few that aren't, but most I've talked to could hang it up now w/o a problem. But the paycheck is still pretty good for what they do. Hmmmm....how can that be so??? Oh yeah, the east is at it's lowest levels ever, while the west is at their HIGHEST levels ever, and uhmm...there isn't THAT big of a seperation between pay. Sure there is a chunk there, but looking back over their careers, they have definately made more than the the average West guy, and the past 5 years is definately not indicitive of what they pay was or potential earnings....

How is that the case and yet most of the East pilots still think they are entitled to everything at the West's expense? Furthermore, I'm pretty sure the West pilots would have made considerably more than the Easties on unemployment had Doug just let the Company liquidate.

So I'd like to hear what the westie would sound like interviewing for that job.

Mannn...I had that there lottery ticket. I'm telling you, those old geezers thought they knew everything. Heck, they been around so long they've forgotten more things then what I even thought of thinking of. But you see here, I'm young, I'm smarter, ya that's right, and I have a birth right to be given what I want. You see my company was inherently better off because I gave them the graciousness to work for them. They were superstars 'cause I am a superstar. You see, you hire me, and your company will became great, money rolling in everywhere. Ya Ya, those old guys, nahhhh they ain't got no experience worth nothing. You hire me and all your troubles will be taken care of......

1. Don't drink and post.
2. Spell check. I've fixed and highlighted your mistakes. Evidently, you've also forgotten more about spelling then "inexperienced West Pilots" ever know.
3. I think most of the furloughed West pilots just tell an interviewer:

"Well, sir, I wanted to work at America West because it was a really great place to work. Then we merged (*I use that term loosely) with USAir and were forced to adopt their philosophies on misery loving company. The NEW USAir never had a chance to become anything other then what what the OLD USAir had evolved into. Actually, getting furloughed from that toxic environment was probably a gift. Life's too short to be miserable all the time.
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Followed shortly by:

Why, yes, I CAN start immediately."
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I think that's pretty much all you have to say to anyone who hasn't lived on another planet for the last 10 years. They'll understand.

 

[Crzipilot]

Hmmm...first off. Could give a jack ******************** less about spelling nor grammer. I'm not a copywrite, english teacher or writing a GD thesis on the internet.

Hmmm....This has to be one of the best quotes of the year yet...

"I wanted to work at America West because it was a great place to work"

Well considering, lets see. Hmm...pre 9/11 Most people RAN from AW. Post 9/11 Well, If i remember correctly they were about the only one hiring. So when one has a choice between Mesa, or Mesa Grande....I guess alot of people took the Grande.... Though I believe some took the unemployment after looking at what a Great company AW was in 2002/03

And if your such a grammar cop, go back and tell me where I was talking about anything regarding the Experience level of a west pilot in my previous quote. I was however complementing the East on their longer time in the industry, which traditionally translates to, Uhmmm......Experience....

Looks more like some inherrent insecurities on your part regarding whatever experience level you may have.......

 

[Carl S.]

The East pilot has worked for 20 years at the former AAA and was laid off for 8 to 10 years and on reserve for most of the time when employed by AAA. The West pilot worked the last 10-12 years at the old AWA flying the whole time, upgrading if they desired, logging 600-900 hours a year. So the East has more experience at reserve and unemployement lines! Much like the instructor at a weapons school compared to a grunt who has done several tours, you may have rank, but you do not have experience!

P.S.- How's my spelling, I'm a grad school drop out!