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Now I will not wish ill will on you because you're already down but keep watching cause this is really going to get interesting.

WD.

More like amusing.:D

WD, I'm mostly just pulling your chain. I have a very good friend who is an 11 year AWA Airbi captain and I certainly don't wish you ill will either, however, I do believe that if LCC wants to be taken seriously for the China route they ought to get the aircraft to fly the route ASAP, not just talk about them. Talk is cheap, get 4 of them today, put them on some long haul routes to Europe or South America and make your proposal. JMHO.
 
That's great, except there are US-China flights already from IAD to PEK (just awarded to UAL), EWR--PEK (CAL 777), and JFK to PVG (China Eastern Airlines). All of those cities are within 100 miles to PHL. Sorry, it is very doubtful that it will be awarded to USAir, since ATL has no China service whatsoever, and neither does the entire SE. Good try! Our 777LRs would also be made in the USA--at Boeing, and A340s are made in Europe. Doesn't the US Government award this route? Wow, another good reason. Amazing.


Bye Bye--General Lee

I don't believe you're sorry, in fact I'm starting to peg you as a racist a$$. You like bashing US. How dare this little puke of an airline that was on the edge of elimination try to get some of OUR international flying. Starting to feel a little threatend huh big guy? That's ok, you go on right ahead and continue. Why don't you call the DOT and remind them they have to be racist in their decision to award the route to only a boeing plane.
 
I don't believe you're sorry, in fact I'm starting to peg you as a racist a$$. You like bashing US. How dare this little puke of an airline that was on the edge of elimination try to get some of OUR international flying. Starting to feel a little threatend huh big guy? That's ok, you go on right ahead and continue. Why don't you call the DOT and remind them they have to be racist in their decision to award the route to only a boeing plane.

Racist? Come on now. Nationalistic pride maybe? Yeah. This is all about national jobs. Used A340s do nothing for this country. Delta has orders for 777s, which is beneficial for everyone here. Senator Stevens of Alaska asked Doug Parker what kind of planes you have on order at the DL/US Commerce Hearing. Parker fumbled, trying to state that you had a mix, forgetting about all of the EMB-190s you currently have on order, and the A321s coming your way soon (you exercised 5 options recently).

As far as being threatened, this is all business. United projected they will make an extra $200 million in yearly revenue from the IAD--PEK route. We want more flights to Asia (we already go to NRT and will be starting Seoul (ICN) in May). We are making and effort to fly to Asia, and you guys haven't started anything at all. You used to go to Nagoya way back when, but that was trashed. You need to make more of an effort first before going for the big prize of China.

Your past arguments about Northwest flying A330s to Europe or Asia have little merrit, since NWA was awarded the Asia routes when they used to fly B-720s or 707s on them, and the European routes do not need our Gov't approval. Big difference here, and Boeing will be lobbying as well as DL for these routes.



Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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Jeez, there goes my mexican landscaper!!!!!

You can afford one? Wow, they pay you a lot at PDT! Good for you.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
You can afford one? Wow, they pay you a lot at PDT! Good for you.


Bye Bye--General Lee

LOL!! Yes, along with our housecleaner!! Thanks again for wathcin out for me and for being my biggest Fan however!!!

Now go and enjoy your imaginary 200k FO Job!!


Know your Role!!
 
LOL!! Yes, along with our housecleaner!! Thanks again for wathcin out for me and for being my biggest Fan however!!!

Now go and enjoy your imaginary 200k FO Job!!


Know your Role!!


Hillarious.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
US Airways looks to other Asia routes

If the carrier wins approval for a nonstop China link, Tokyo might be next. It still seeks long-range jets.

By Tom Belden

Inquirer Staff Writer

Philadelphia could get more direct air service to Asia - including flights to Tokyo - were US Airways to win approval to launch nonstop trips to China next year, the airline's chief executive officer, Doug Parker, said yesterday.
As expected, US Airways announced it would file an application with the U.S. Department of Transportation later this year to start flying once a day in each direction between Philadelphia International Airport and Shanghai, China's booming business capital.
Five other U.S. carriers - American, Continental, Delta, Northwest and Hawaiian - also are expected to apply for the right to fly between China and one of their U.S. hub airports.
US Airways would need to buy or lease additional, long-range jets to make the 12-hour flights to China, and could use the same planes to open other routes to Asia, Parker said at City Hall news conference.
"Tokyo would be a terrific route out of Philadelphia," he said. "If we do well to Shanghai, we'll have the planes to go nonstop to Narita," Tokyo's international airport.
US Airways would not need permission from U.S. or Japanese officials to operate those flights, but would have to obtain landing slots at Narita Airport, which are in short supply and desired by other major airlines, Parker said.
US Airways has been talking to Ace Aviation Holdings Ltd., the parent of Air Canada, about buying or leasing Airbus A340 jets that Air Canada expects to begin replacing this year, Bloomberg News reported. The four-engine A340 has a range of more than 8,000 miles.
US Airways spokesman Philip Gee said the airline has talked to several potential sellers of long-range planes, but hasn't decided what it would use if it gets the Philadelphia-Shanghai route.
In announcing its China plans here, US Airways signaled that it would need help from Philadelphia's business community and political leaders to win the route. Parker called on Mayor Street and a roomful of business and civic leaders at the news conference to help convince federal regulators that Philadelphia is the best choice, in part because it is the largest metropolitan area now with no nonstops to China.
U.S.-to-China airline service is more limited than service to most international destinations. Under a six-year agreement between the United States and China signed in 2004, airlines will be able to offer 195 new flights a week, phased in over the term of the pact.
Each time the Transportation Department opens a proceeding to award an airline more China service, it is bombarded with economic studies and letters from members of Congress and state and local leaders in support of the hometown airline.
Mark Schweiker, president of the Greater Philadelphia Chamber of Commerce, said Parker would speak at a meeting of the chamber's CEO Council for Growth this morning to help plot the region's strategy to win the route. Parker is the only member of the CEO Council who lives outside the region.
Some leaders of Philadelphia's Chinese community and Chinatown business owners were enthusiastic about US Airways' plan, saying it would boost business and leisure travel between the region and China, one of the world's fastest-growing economies.
Yong Lu, owner of Success Travel, a Chinatown travel agency and driving school, said a route between Philadelphia and southern China would be even better than one to Shanghai, because most Chinese in the area come from that part of the country. But any nonstop service would better than connecting flights going through another U.S. airport, which can take 24 hours or more to reach southern China, she said.
"US Airways would get a lot of business," she said.
Contact staff writer Tom Belden at 215-854-2454 or [email protected].
 
More like amusing.:D

WD, I'm mostly just pulling your chain. I have a very good friend who is an 11 year AWA Airbi captain and I certainly don't wish you ill will either, however, I do believe that if LCC wants to be taken seriously for the China route they ought to get the aircraft to fly the route ASAP, not just talk about them. Talk is cheap, get 4 of them today, put them on some long haul routes to Europe or South America and make your proposal. JMHO.

I figured that you were clowining which is why I responded the way I did. You really have to take this board for what it's worth, fun and games. Where else could you go to read commentary from a pilot from Transtates who got his degree from western career college (off the back of a match book) and tricked DAL managment in to thinking he had a real education past tv watching and repair?? Hmmmm someone like oh say 737PYLT;)

What about a confederate worshiper who's only life is DAL and this web board and the proof is 8000 plus post strong. He's a big Obestar fan and has a secret love affair with him. WHo could it be???Ahhhh you guessed it General Lee:laugh:

And there is my personal favorite the one who will come after anyone who says anything about DAL that he doens't like even if he's wrong. The one the only super Delta puppy 800 Dog:D

China flying, it's not going to happen until 08 so no real rush to do anything at this time. It only makes sense to wait until there is a single seniority list before putting out a bid for this fllying. Unless I am wrong it's only a short course for A330 pilots and those of us on the A320/321 it's a 30 day transition.

Have a good weekend, that is if you are senior enough to hold it off like some of us;)

:beer:

WD.
 
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I figured that you were clowining which is why I responded the way I did. You really have to take this board for what it's worth, fun and games. Where else could you go to read commentary from a pilot from Transtates who got his degree from western career college (off the back of a match book) and tricked DAL managment in to thinking he had a real education past tv watching and repair?? Hmmmm someone like oh say 737PYLT;)

What about a confederate worshiper who's only life is DAL and this web board and the proof is 8000 plus post strong. He's a big Obestar fan and has a secret love affair with him. WHo could it be???Ahhhh you guessed it General Lee:laugh:

And there is my personal favorite the one who will come after anyone who says anything about DAL that he doens't like even if he's wrong. The one the only super Delta puppy 800 Dog:D

China flying, it's not going to happen until 08 so no real rush to do anything at this time. It only makes sense to wait until there is a single seniority list before putting out a bid for this fllying. Unless I am wrong it's only a short course for A330 pilots and those of us on the A320/321 it's a 30 day transition.

Have a good weekend, that is if you are senior enough to hold it off like some of us;)

:beer:

WD.

You're right, how can you take this seriously....Especially from a TSA washout who barely got past the Air Wisconsin hiring board, and only made it to awa because there was no college degree required and nobody really cared to work there. Besides, his "manly" side business is what really keeps him "happy.":bomb: ;) You know, someone like Wisky Driver!!!:D

737
 
Yes it's all in fun! However I would caution about making fun of someone else's airline! I think I remember a bunch of Delta, US Airways and United people totally tearing into the SouthWest folks about pay and retirement about 7 years ago!!! You don't hear one peep out of those folks anymore! Southwest 737 Captains making more the Delta 777 or US Airways 330 guys!

On the bottom one day, Top the next! Or visa versa!! Now look at the payrates!! Good Luck to us all!!
 
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You're right, how can you take this seriously....Especially from a TSA washout who barely got past the Air Wisconsin hiring board, and only made it to awa because there was no college degree required and nobody really cared to work there. Besides, his "manly" side business is what really keeps him "happy.":bomb: ;) You know, someone like Wisky Driver!!!:D

737

I knew you had me confused with someone else as soon as you said TSA washout. Nope not me bro I had a 95+ avg on all written exams plus spent 8mos there prior to getting on with AWAC. Now as far as the hiring board I didn't know they had one! I interviewed with DEN CP or Asst CP can't remember which and HR person. Got a class a month later so you may have me on that as I can't say one way or another on a hiring board. Give me your address so I can send you my ERAU transcripts. Now you're just mad that you only went to a degree mill but hey, I ain't mad at ya;) . I like the fact that you were able to pull the wool over their eyes, you should teach others that trick:laugh: . Yeah my side business does keep me happy and financially happy at that. You know? the way pay benefits and a pension kept you happy at one time.:blush: Don't worry me and the rest of the uneducated USAirways pilot group wiill restore faith in the industry the way Dal use too...

Here's to your exit from BK and returen to profitability, seriously.

WD.
 
I'll consider it a good weekend if I don't fall off the roof cleaning my gutters.:laugh: :beer: :laugh:

The h ell with that, pay somebody to do it and live injury free;)

WD.
 
Yes it's all in fun! However I would caution about making fun of someone else's airline! I think I remember a bunch of Delta, US Airways and United people totally tearing into the SouthWest folks about pay and retirement about 7 years ago!!! You don't hear one peep out of those folks anymore! Southwest 737 Captains making more the Delta 777 or US Airways 330 guys!

On the bottom one day, Top the next! Or visa versa!! Now look at the payrates!! Good Luck to us all!!

Seriously?? Wow, that is pretty bad for an international capt.
 
Yeah my side business does keep me happy and financially happy at that.
The "happy (ending) handy man"!
WD, I'm sure you and hpilot, phxflyr have a very healthy and "happy" life together!:laugh:

You know? the way pay benefits and a pension kept you happy at one time.:blush: Don't worry me and the rest of the uneducated USAirways pilot group wiill restore faith in the industry the way Dal use too...
:laugh:
Handy man:
that has to be one of the funniest things you have EVER posted. Isn't AAA the airline who first terminated their pensions, without even a pilot vote??
How goes the lawsuit of the pilots who were robbed of their pensions by their MEC? You have to do better than this.......
Restoring the faith in the industry????Dude, we're in BK and paid better than you!:laugh:
Keep dreaming, and keep em coming WD! You make for a good laugh!

Here's to your exit from BK and returen to profitability, seriously.

WD.
Amen brother! Yours too.....I mean to a better contract!

737
This message is hidden because 400ADude is on your ignore list.

What a surprise, 400ahole is responding to an Air Tran or DL thread.
Hey troll, isn't it past your bed time!
 
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Racist? Come on now. Nationalistic pride maybe? Yeah. This is all about national jobs. Used A340s do nothing for this country. Delta has orders for 777s, which is beneficial for everyone here. Senator Stevens of Alaska asked Doug Parker what kind of planes you have on order at the DL/US Commerce Hearing. Parker fumbled, trying to state that you had a mix, forgetting about all of the EMB-190s you currently have on order, and the A321s coming your way soon (you exercised 5 options recently).

As far as being threatened, this is all business. United projected they will make an extra $200 million in yearly revenue from the IAD--PEK route. We want more flights to Asia (we already go to NRT and will be starting Seoul (ICN) in May). We are making and effort to fly to Asia, and you guys haven't started anything at all. You used to go to Nagoya way back when, but that was trashed. You need to make more of an effort first before going for the big prize of China.

Your past arguments about Northwest flying A330s to Europe or Asia have little merrit, since NWA was awarded the Asia routes when they used to fly B-720s or 707s on them, and the European routes do not need our Gov't approval. Big difference here, and Boeing will be lobbying as well as DL for these routes.


Bye Bye--General Lee


European routes don't need gov't approval.
Dougie stutterd at the hearing, forgot we ALWAYS had both Boeings and Airbus.
NWA has been flying to Asia before I was born with 707's.
United was just awared a new IAD-PEK route.
Boeing builds planes in Seattle.
You spend too much time on this forum.

TELL ME SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW. You sound like your Mr. aviation talking to children. I mentioned that Northwest uses something other than a Boeing to fly their European routes, THAT'S IT. Not that it needed authority to do it. I know Boeing makes jobs for Americans, but you forgot to mention that those planes are build in several countries making jobs for more than just Americans. You also forgot to mention we have 8 more A330's on order with deliveries starting next year (I know about the 321's that were excercied thank you very much) You already have the 777's on order so it won't matter if you're not awarded the China route, you're still going to recieve the planes right? The Senator asking our fearless leader (other than female prisioners) about planes that we have had absolutely NOTHING to do with flying routes to China. You really should get on kids-who-like-airplanes forums cause you're not impressing anyone on here general.
 
The h ell with that, pay somebody to do it and live injury free;)

WD.


No way, I have to justify my new Toro Ultra 235mph, 390cfm blower vac to my wife somehow. ;)

Besides, we may not have industry leading pay rates anymore, but our LTD aint bad.:D
 
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European routes don't need gov't approval.
Dougie stutterd at the hearing, forgot we ALWAYS had both Boeings and Airbus.
NWA has been flying to Asia before I was born with 707's.
United was just awared a new IAD-PEK route.
Boeing builds planes in Seattle.
You spend too much time on this forum.

TELL ME SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW. You sound like your Mr. aviation talking to children. I mentioned that Northwest uses something other than a Boeing to fly their European routes, THAT'S IT. Not that it needed authority to do it. I know Boeing makes jobs for Americans, but you forgot to mention that those planes are build in several countries making jobs for more than just Americans. You also forgot to mention we have 8 more A330's on order with deliveries starting next year (I know about the 321's that were excercied thank you very much) You already have the 777's on order so it won't matter if you're not awarded the China route, you're still going to recieve the planes right? The Senator asking our fearless leader (other than female prisioners) about planes that we have had absolutely NOTHING to do with flying routes to China. You really should get on kids-who-like-airplanes forums cause you're not impressing anyone on here general.

GL has pointed out plenty of things you either didn't know, or chose to leave out. Your A330s could never make the China runs anyway, Northwest's do not. I think GL was trying to point out, to your dismay, that people in Congress actually think about where certain planes are built, and it does matter. That will probably factor into the government awarding routes, since Boeing will probably be whispering in Congress' ear. You were wrong about the USAir deal with DL, and GL was right. He is probably right about this too, and it frustrates you. It is obvious.
 
No way, I have to justify my new Toro Ultra 235mph, 390cfm blower vac to my wife somehow. ;)

Besides, we may not have industry leading pay rates anymore, but our LTD aint bad.:D

Ohhhhhh man toys!!! The must have over powered blower vac yeah I got one too;) .

WD.
 
The "happy (ending) handy man"!
WD, I'm sure you and hpilot, phxflyr have a very healthy and "happy" life together!:laugh:


:laugh:
Handy man:
that has to be one of the funniest things you have EVER posted. Isn't AAA the airline who first terminated their pensions, without even a pilot vote??
How goes the lawsuit of the pilots who were robbed of their pensions by their MEC? You have to do better than this.......
Restoring the faith in the industry????Dude, we're in BK and paid better than you!:laugh:
Keep dreaming, and keep em coming WD! You make for a good laugh!


Amen brother! Yours too.....I mean to a better contract!

737


What a surprise, 400ahole is responding to an Air Tran or DL thread.
Hey troll, isn't it past your bed time!

I have to let a lot of your stuff slide cause you often get caught in the past or confused as to who I really work for. Now for clarifaction purposes, what went on at AAA prior to this merger is old news and reallyhas no bearing on our continued conversation. That was then and this is now. NOW the new Airways is one of the most profitable airlines out there. NOW we are working toward a contract that exceeds all with the exception of UPS,FED Ex which are in a class by themselves. NOW we are making plans to do more and fly to more places int'l then we ever did. NOW is far better than then at least for us it is...

WD
 
GL has pointed out plenty of things you either didn't know, or chose to leave out. Your A330s could never make the China runs anyway, Northwest's do not. I think GL was trying to point out, to your dismay, that people in Congress actually think about where certain planes are built, and it does matter. That will probably factor into the government awarding routes, since Boeing will probably be whispering in Congress' ear. You were wrong about the USAir deal with DL, and GL was right. He is probably right about this too, and it frustrates you. It is obvious.

US Airways would be using 340-500 for Short-Term! I am sure if they are awarded the asian flying they would be whipering in Boeings Ear about a order of 777 or 787's!
Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day!
 
Rome wasn't built in a day and most of the B777 wasn't built in the USA, just put together here. Kind of like a Honda. Speaking of Honda, Japan has a nice cushy agreement with Boeing.

Interesting paper. http://www.custac.buffalo.edu/docs/OccasionalPaper30.pdf

See Table 1 to start.

Ah Boeing, flying on "American-Made" wings.
 
Rome wasn't built in a day and most of the B777 wasn't built in the USA, just put together here. Kind of like a Honda. Speaking of Honda, Japan has a nice cushy agreement with Boeing.

Interesting paper. http://www.custac.buffalo.edu/docs/OccasionalPaper30.pdf

See Table 1 to start.

Ah Boeing, flying on "American-Made" wings.

Yea, I said the same thing awhile back and everyone freaked out on me! Don't get me wrong, Boeing is a good airplane but Airbus isn't half bad either! I know I would rather be a passager on a 319 or 320 then a Boeing 737 anyday.
 
ya know what...

I have to let a lot of your stuff slide cause you often get caught in the past or confused as to who I really work for. Now for clarifaction purposes, what went on at AAA prior to this merger is old news and reallyhas no bearing on our continued conversation. That was then and this is now. NOW the new Airways is one of the most profitable airlines out there. NOW we are working toward a contract that exceeds all with the exception of UPS,FED Ex which are in a class by themselves. NOW we are making plans to do more and fly to more places int'l then we ever did. NOW is far better than then at least for us it is...

WD

WD right NOW I'm thinking of that Van Halen song "Right Now"
 

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