US Airways Announces China Route Proposal

[FDJ2]

Too bad they don't have an aircraft that can fly the route.:laugh:

US Airways to seek Philadelphia-China flights

By Tom Belden
Inquirer Staff Writer

In what would be the region's first direct air service to Asia, US Airways plans to announce today that it will seek federal approval to start flying next year nonstop between Philadelphia International Airport and China.
Chief executive officer Doug Parker is expected to join Mayor Street in unveiling the plans at a City Hall news conference, airline and local officials said.

US Airways told the U.S. Department of Transportation last month that it planned to join other airlines in competing for the next available U.S.-to-China route, department spokesman Bill Mosley said yesterday.
But the airline had not said previously whether it wanted to start the service from Philadelphia or one of its other hubs, Phoenix or Charlotte, N.C.
US Airways can expect spirited competition for the route, which can be to any major city in China.

Delta Air Lines Inc. filed an application in January to fly nonstop between Atlanta and Shanghai, China. Since then, four other carriers - American Airlines, Continental Airlines Inc., Hawaiian Airlines Inc. and Northwest Airlines Corp. - also have expressed interest in having nonstop flights between one of their hub cities and China.

Delta is the only airline that specified which Chinese city it would like to serve.

Airlines usually enlist the support of local political and business leaders to lobby the Transportation Department on behalf of the carrier's hub city. Among the arguments US Airways Group Inc. can make is that Philadelphia is the nation's largest metropolitan area that does not have direct service to China.

U.S.-to-China airline routes are among the most coveted in the world, because demand is strong from business and leisure travelers, but the number of flights is limited.

Unlike domestic airline routes, international ones are governed by treaties between countries that name which airlines can serve them and how many weekly flights they can have. Under a six-year agreement with China signed in 2004, U.S. carriers will be allowed to offer 195 new flights a week, phased in over the terms of the pact.

In January, United Airlines won a battle with American, Continental and Northwest for the right to start nonstop service between Washington Dulles Airport and Beijing. United plans to start the service March 28.

US Airways would need to acquire a new long-range jet to fly between Philadelphia and China because its largest plane, the Airbus A330, does not have the range to go nonstop. Beijing, China's capital, is 6,900 miles by air from Philadelphia.

 

[uba757]

FDJ2 its DIRECT service not NON-STOP, LOL, So the can do it on the E190 and just show you the country. UBA757

 

[tie1on]

do it with the 190 er with drop tanks
doug is smoking crack now

 

[Saabslime]

Yeah, and because we're the most profitable network carrier in the land right now we obviously can't finance any new aircraft or anything.

 

[bigtexpilot]

Not Yet.

Too bad they don't have an aircraft that can fly the route.:laugh:

US Airways to seek Philadelphia-China flights

By Tom Belden
Inquirer Staff Writer

In what would be the region's first direct air service to Asia, US Airways plans to announce today that it will seek federal approval to start flying next year nonstop between Philadelphia International Airport and China.
Chief executive officer Doug Parker is expected to join Mayor Street in unveiling the plans at a City Hall news conference, airline and local officials said.

US Airways told the U.S. Department of Transportation last month that it planned to join other airlines in competing for the next available U.S.-to-China route, department spokesman Bill Mosley said yesterday.
But the airline had not said previously whether it wanted to start the service from Philadelphia or one of its other hubs, Phoenix or Charlotte, N.C.
US Airways can expect spirited competition for the route, which can be to any major city in China.

Delta Air Lines Inc. filed an application in January to fly nonstop between Atlanta and Shanghai, China. Since then, four other carriers - American Airlines, Continental Airlines Inc., Hawaiian Airlines Inc. and Northwest Airlines Corp. - also have expressed interest in having nonstop flights between one of their hub cities and China.

Delta is the only airline that specified which Chinese city it would like to serve.

Airlines usually enlist the support of local political and business leaders to lobby the Transportation Department on behalf of the carrier's hub city. Among the arguments US Airways Group Inc. can make is that Philadelphia is the nation's largest metropolitan area that does not have direct service to China.

U.S.-to-China airline routes are among the most coveted in the world, because demand is strong from business and leisure travelers, but the number of flights is limited.

Unlike domestic airline routes, international ones are governed by treaties between countries that name which airlines can serve them and how many weekly flights they can have. Under a six-year agreement with China signed in 2004, U.S. carriers will be allowed to offer 195 new flights a week, phased in over the terms of the pact.

In January, United Airlines won a battle with American, Continental and Northwest for the right to start nonstop service between Washington Dulles Airport and Beijing. United plans to start the service March 28.

US Airways would need to acquire a new long-range jet to fly between Philadelphia and China because its largest plane, the Airbus A330, does not have the range to go nonstop. Beijing, China's capital, is 6,900 miles by air from Philadelphia.

 

[WSurf]

I believe US Airways is looking to aquire 5 Airbus 340's.

 

[General Lee]

Yeah, and because we're the most profitable network carrier in the land right now we obviously can't finance any new aircraft or anything.

Again, you guys really have no plan. There are other nonstops to China from EWR and JFK (only 90 miles away) plus a new UAL 744 route from IAD to PEK that was just awarded. We in ATL have no flights to China,(but have the busiest hub in the world with the most connection possibilities to the Carribbean, South America), and we have airplanes coming that can do it nonstop. The only planes you could get that are common with your fleet (that can do it nonstop) is the A340-500, and not many of those have been built. Thai, Singapore, and Emirates use them currently.

Philly to China......Hmmmm. You do have a great Chinese restaraunt near the U of Penn campus---"Beijing". Tastes great.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

I believe US Airways is looking to aquire 5 Airbus 340's.

Only A340-500s could make it that far nonstop.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Marko Ramius]

See drum, bang drum, wait two seconds, repeat.

 

[WSurf]

Well here it is! I believe these airplanes would be short term...



AIRLINE TALKING WITH AIR CANADA, OTHERS
US Airways seeks
long-range jets
Airbus A340-300s would let carrier fly nonstop to China
STEVE HARRISON
[email protected]
US Airways is negotiating with Air Canada to buy at least two Airbus A340-300 long-range aircraft that it could use to fly to China.

The Tempe, Ariz.-based airline announced last month that it intended to apply for the right to fly to China with the U.S. Department of Transportation. The announcement was unusual because US Airways didn't announce what cities it would serve and because it doesn't have an airplane that could fly far enough to serve the country. US Airways also doesn't have any Asia service.

US Airways spokesman Phil Gee said the airline is talking with Air Canada and a number of other airlines about acquiring used planes. He said US Airways hasn't received a proposal yet from Air Canada and that no deal is "imminent."

The A340-300, with seating for 295 people, would be the airline's biggest plane ever.

The Airbus A340 is a wide-body plane with four engines that some airlines, including Air Canada, are trying to sell because it's relatively expensive to fly, especially now that fuel prices are high. Air Canada has 10 A340-300s and two A340-500s, which can fly more than 10,000 miles nonstop.

"Those planes aren't in favor now," said airline analyst Mike Boyd of Evergreen, Colo. "But (for US Airways) it could be a very economical plane to get ahold of, though it might not be economical to run."

Air Canada spokesman John Reber said the airline wants to phase out its A340s with new Boeing 777 and 787 planes, but he declined to discuss possible buyers.

United earlier this year won an intense competition for the newest China flight. It will begin flying from Washington-Dulles to Beijing this month.

The U.S. DOT will award another China flight this year. Delta Air Lines has already applied to fly from Atlanta to Beijing, and other airlines are expected to apply.

It's expected that US Airways would fly to China from its international gateway in Philadelphia or from its home base in Phoenix. Charlotte is the airline's busiest hub.

And another:

US Airways to seek Philadelphia-China flightsBy Tom Belden
Inquirer Staff Writer
In what would be the region's first direct air service to Asia, US Airways plans to announce today that it will seek federal approval to start flying next year nonstop between Philadelphia International Airport and China.

Chief executive officer Doug Parker is expected to join Mayor Street in unveiling the plans at a City Hall news conference, airline and local officials said.

US Airways told the U.S. Department of Transportation last month that it planned to join other airlines in competing for the next available U.S.-to-China route, department spokesman Bill Mosley said yesterday.

But the airline had not said previously whether it wanted to start the service from Philadelphia or one of its other hubs, Phoenix or Charlotte, N.C.

US Airways can expect spirited competition for the route, which can be to any major city in China.

Delta Air Lines Inc. filed an application in January to fly nonstop between Atlanta and Shanghai, China. Since then, four other carriers - American Airlines, Continental Airlines Inc., Hawaiian Airlines Inc. and Northwest Airlines Corp. - also have expressed interest in having nonstop flights between one of their hub cities and China.

Delta is the only airline that specified which Chinese city it would like to serve.

Airlines usually enlist the support of local political and business leaders to lobby the Transportation Department on behalf of the carrier's hub city. Among the arguments US Airways Group Inc. can make is that Philadelphia is the nation's largest metropolitan area that does not have direct service to China.

U.S.-to-China airline routes are among the most coveted in the world, because demand is strong from business and leisure travelers, but the number of flights is limited.

Unlike domestic airline routes, international ones are governed by treaties between countries that name which airlines can serve them and how many weekly flights they can have. Under a six-year agreement with China signed in 2004, U.S. carriers will be allowed to offer 195 new flights a week, phased in over the terms of the pact.

In January, United Airlines won a battle with American, Continental and Northwest for the right to start nonstop service between Washington Dulles Airport and Beijing. United plans to start the service March 28.

US Airways would need to acquire a new long-range jet to fly between Philadelphia and China because its largest plane, the Airbus A330, does not have the range to go nonstop. Beijing, China's capital, is 6,900 miles by air from Philadelphia.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Well here it is! I believe these airplanes would be short term...



AIRLINE TALKING WITH AIR CANADA, OTHERS
US Airways seeks
long-range jets
Airbus A340-300s would let carrier fly nonstop to China
STEVE HARRISON
[email protected]
US Airways is negotiating with Air Canada to buy at least two Airbus A340-300 long-range aircraft that it could use to fly to China.

The Tempe, Ariz.-based airline announced last month that it intended to apply for the right to fly to China with the U.S. Department of Transportation. The announcement was unusual because US Airways didn't announce what cities it would serve and because it doesn't have an airplane that could fly far enough to serve the country. US Airways also doesn't have any Asia service.

US Airways spokesman Phil Gee said the airline is talking with Air Canada and a number of other airlines about acquiring used planes. He said US Airways hasn't received a proposal yet from Air Canada and that no deal is "imminent."

The A340-300, with seating for 295 people, would be the airline's biggest plane ever.

The Airbus A340 is a wide-body plane with four engines that some airlines, including Air Canada, are trying to sell because it's relatively expensive to fly, especially now that fuel prices are high. Air Canada has 10 A340-300s and two A340-500s, which can fly more than 10,000 miles nonstop.

"Those planes aren't in favor now," said airline analyst Mike Boyd of Evergreen, Colo. "But (for US Airways) it could be a very economical plane to get ahold of, though it might not be economical to run."

Air Canada spokesman John Reber said the airline wants to phase out its A340s with new Boeing 777 and 787 planes, but he declined to discuss possible buyers.

United earlier this year won an intense competition for the newest China flight. It will begin flying from Washington-Dulles to Beijing this month.

The U.S. DOT will award another China flight this year. Delta Air Lines has already applied to fly from Atlanta to Beijing, and other airlines are expected to apply.

It's expected that US Airways would fly to China from its international gateway in Philadelphia or from its home base in Phoenix. Charlotte is the airline's busiest hub.

And another:

US Airways to seek Philadelphia-China flightsBy Tom Belden
Inquirer Staff Writer
In what would be the region's first direct air service to Asia, US Airways plans to announce today that it will seek federal approval to start flying next year nonstop between Philadelphia International Airport and China.

Chief executive officer Doug Parker is expected to join Mayor Street in unveiling the plans at a City Hall news conference, airline and local officials said.

US Airways told the U.S. Department of Transportation last month that it planned to join other airlines in competing for the next available U.S.-to-China route, department spokesman Bill Mosley said yesterday.

But the airline had not said previously whether it wanted to start the service from Philadelphia or one of its other hubs, Phoenix or Charlotte, N.C.

US Airways can expect spirited competition for the route, which can be to any major city in China.

Delta Air Lines Inc. filed an application in January to fly nonstop between Atlanta and Shanghai, China. Since then, four other carriers - American Airlines, Continental Airlines Inc., Hawaiian Airlines Inc. and Northwest Airlines Corp. - also have expressed interest in having nonstop flights between one of their hub cities and China.

Delta is the only airline that specified which Chinese city it would like to serve.

Airlines usually enlist the support of local political and business leaders to lobby the Transportation Department on behalf of the carrier's hub city. Among the arguments US Airways Group Inc. can make is that Philadelphia is the nation's largest metropolitan area that does not have direct service to China.

U.S.-to-China airline routes are among the most coveted in the world, because demand is strong from business and leisure travelers, but the number of flights is limited.

Unlike domestic airline routes, international ones are governed by treaties between countries that name which airlines can serve them and how many weekly flights they can have. Under a six-year agreement with China signed in 2004, U.S. carriers will be allowed to offer 195 new flights a week, phased in over the terms of the pact.

In January, United Airlines won a battle with American, Continental and Northwest for the right to start nonstop service between Washington Dulles Airport and Beijing. United plans to start the service March 28.

US Airways would need to acquire a new long-range jet to fly between Philadelphia and China because its largest plane, the Airbus A330, does not have the range to go nonstop. Beijing, China's capital, is 6,900 miles by air from Philadelphia.

Why are you wasteing time on them,FDJ2 is slow:laugh: I told him and the others that the carrier is in talks with air Canada and a few others to aquire 5 A340-500's.

Stop now Wsurf before 800Dog and the rest of the welfare double breasted shakeing hands with management constantly crying Deltiods come down from the hills with shotguns and overalls after you.

Y'all come back now ya hear we's have viddles awaiten:laugh: :laugh:

WD.

 

[WSurf]

Yes, the news letter is a misprint!! Its the 340-500's that they are neg for!

 

[WSurf]

http://cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/search/photo_search.php?id=00007101&size=medium


Looks nice already!!!

 

[xanderman]

agreed

Again, you guys really have no plan. There are other nonstops to China from EWR and JFK (only 90 miles away) plus a new UAL 744 route from IAD to PEK that was just awarded. We in ATL have no flights to China,(but have the busiest hub in the world with the most connection possibilities to the Carribbean, South America), and we have airplanes coming that can do it nonstop. The only planes you could get that are common with your fleet (that can do it nonstop) is the A340-500, and not many of those have been built. Thai, Singapore, and Emirates use them currently.

Philly to China......Hmmmm. You do have a great Chinese restaraunt near the U of Penn campus---"Beijing". Tastes great.


Bye Bye--General Lee

I agree. Our marketing team really seems to go the opposite direction of what would seem the logical way to go. We (AWA anyway) are famous for the one-flight-a-day service to new destinations. I always wondered what happens if the flight cancels? ...Don't answer. It was a rhetorical question GL. But this too seems stupid when, as you said, they will compete with CAL out of EWR as well as others out of JFK (who is that?). However I must admit that the company is making money hand-over-fist right now even with this goofy marketing department.

Andy

 

[WSurf]

http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/a340-500.html

 

[xanderman]

Funny

Deltiods come down from the hills with shotguns and overalls after you.

Y'all come back now ya hear we's have viddles awaiten:laugh: :laugh:

WD.

LMAO!!!

Now that was funny WD. Very funny indeed!

Andy

 

[WSurf]

Philly will get US Airways China flight
STEVE HARRISON
[email protected]
US Airways will announce this afternoon that its proposed China route will be from Philadelphia to Shanghai.

The airline is petitioning the U.S. Department of Transportation for the right to fly to China. Other airlines are competing as well. US Airways doesn't have any flights now to Asia and it doesn't have a plane that could fly that far.

US Airways has been negotiating with Air Canada to buy at least two Airbus A340-500 aircraft for the China route. If approved, that route would begin in a year.

 

[General Lee]

Philly will get US Airways China flight
STEVE HARRISON
[email protected]
US Airways will announce this afternoon that its proposed China route will be from Philadelphia to Shanghai.

The airline is petitioning the U.S. Department of Transportation for the right to fly to China. Other airlines are competing as well. US Airways doesn't have any flights now to Asia and it doesn't have a plane that could fly that far.

US Airways has been negotiating with Air Canada to buy at least two Airbus A340-500 aircraft for the China route. If approved, that route would begin in a year.

That's great, except there are US-China flights already from IAD to PEK (just awarded to UAL), EWR--PEK (CAL 777), and JFK to PVG (China Eastern Airlines). All of those cities are within 100 miles to PHL. Sorry, it is very doubtful that it will be awarded to USAir, since ATL has no China service whatsoever, and neither does the entire SE. Good try! Our 777LRs would also be made in the USA--at Boeing, and A340s are made in Europe. Doesn't the US Government award this route? Wow, another good reason. Amazing.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

LMAO!!!

Now that was funny WD. Very funny indeed!

Andy

Were you guys laughing when you heard Parker had to go to a Woman's prison?

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[FDJ2]

Why are you wasteing time on them,FDJ2 is slow:laugh: I told him and the others that the carrier is in talks with air Canada and a few others to aquire 5 A340-500's.
WD.

Still in "talks"? Hmmmm, can't quite seal the deal can they. Perhaps you'd have a chance if you "actually" had an aircraft that could do the route, instead of just being in "talks".:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[WSurf]

That's great, except there are US-China flights already from IAD to PEK (just awarded to UAL), EWR--PEK (CAL 777), and JFK to PVG (China Eastern Airlines). All of those cities are within 100 miles to PHL. Sorry, it is very doubtful that it will be awarded to USAir, since ATL has no China service whatsoever, and neither does the entire SE. Good try! Our 777LRs would also be made in the USA--at Boeing, and A340s are made in Europe. Doesn't the US Government award this route? Wow, another good reason. Amazing.


Bye Bye--General Lee

It probably won't be PHL, my beat if really approved it would be out of CLT. Come on Lee, seems anything US Airways does gets your little Elmo Panties all in a knot! Easy up lil man, competition is good!
Waste more time on your BK, pension and your imaginary 200k a year salary!

 

[General Lee]

It probably won't be PHL, my beat if really approved it would be out of CLT. Come on Lee, seems anything US Airways does gets your little Elmo Panties all in a knot! Easy up lil man, competition is good!
Waste more time on your BK, pension and your imaginary 200k a year salary!

Billy,

Good response again. I gave you the real numbers, but you choose to look at your stub and grin and bear it. Good for you. Cradads are cheap when you fish for them off your dock.


Anyway, the USAir application is laughable. They have no orders for any plane that could do it, and are in TALKS for maybe getting some from Air Canada. The city they chose is close to other cities that already have service. And, the US Govt would rather have their own home built 777s flying the route, rather than start A340 service. Does any US carrier fly A340s? Nope. Competition is good, but not all in one area (the NE). Sorry, keep trying to debate it....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[BoilerUP]

G-D posts like this belong on the regionals board...

 

[TWA Dude]

Oberstar will block this deal. Delta will get anything it wants.

Every AWA pilot will receive a profit-sharing check this month of approximately $4700 (gross).

 

[General Lee]

Oberstar will block this deal. Delta will get anything it wants.

Every AWA pilot will receive a profit-sharing check this month of approximately $4700 (gross).

Great for you guys. We will get 11% raise for the next two years, minimum. The money we will get for the pension ($650 million note) will go towards filling up the 2008 401K limit, and our equity stake ($2.1 billion--my personal amount will be $270,000) will go towards filling last year's 401K and this years limit ($44,000 per year). When all that happens, Delta will still have to pay us the 9% DC fund contribution, and the 2% matching for our 401ks, all in cash each month. I also give 10% of my own funds toward my 401k, and that will stop too----so I will get a 21% raise for the next two years. Isn't that great?


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[xanderman]

Yep!

Were you guys laughing when you heard Parker had to go to a Woman's prison?

Bye Bye--General Lee

Actually I was laughing when I found out he served his time in girly jail. I personally have ZERO respect for him. Drinking and driving has killed a family member of mine and they were the sober part of that tango. Also having worked as a paramedic in the NW I have seen my fair share of idiots killing kids and their parents. I think Parker should lose his job. But that's just me... And I'll stop this rant before I go too far on this board.

Andy

 

[WSurf]

I could maybe understand if it was his first offense, there are a bunch of people that get pinched with .08 and .09! However I believe it was his third DUI offense!! This is kinda sad! No excuses for that!!
But then again if you were gonna do time..... hmmmmm I think most of us would want to go to the girly prison as well! Well, except if your G.L.

 

[800Dog]

.08 is no worse than driving fatigued, distracted(cell phone), elderly or flying a standup/redeye. I too have lost someone to a drunk driver. He was .31 and had many prior arrests.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Still in "talks"? Hmmmm, can't quite seal the deal can they. Perhaps you'd have a chance if you "actually" had an aircraft that could do the route, instead of just being in "talks".:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

C'mon Mr. research you should already know. Those carriers came to us with those a/c not the other way around. Now I will not wish ill will on you because you're already down but keep watching cause this is really going to get interesting.

WD.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

.08 is no worse than driving fatigued, distracted(cell phone), elderly or flying a standup/redeye. I too have lost someone to a drunk driver. He was .31 and had many prior arrests.

Sorry to hear that. You and Andy have my deepest condolences.

WD.