US Airways- 52 additional Pilots

[Crzipilot]

See that's the nice thing about everything that happened post 9/11. We all had to downsize our lives and look at living without a paycheck for up to a year. Hence 17 days off with 82 hours fits just fine.

Actually I think the recall was hindered due to the merger. See if you look at staffing levels and how they ran the east, they were pairing it down to match the West. Once the merger was announced, mysteriously the staffing levels on the east came back up to at least match the west. They ran the east bare bones, most likely to help facilitate that merger.

Lets see. WX cancellation pay. Well it's not the same, but we do have pay protection on trips in the form of rigs.

Min day guarantee, has a form of it, except on split trips which was a give back.

Vacation days, 14, ok you got us there. Had to go through 2 bk contracts to get to below your level. Uhmmm.. aren't you guys sitting on your "industry" leading contract? HAHA ya ok....

No offense, but have no desire to fly over 85 hours, not really a desire to fly over 80. Not a time whore like the typical pilot that supplements his low hourly pay by flying 100+ hours. Which strangely enough flying that much allows the company to operate with less pilots and a cheaper cost to them. Sure some extra shekals in your pocket

 

[Crzipilot]

Dude, you're wasting your breath(finger strokes). These are the same doorknobs that hung on at an airline until near liquadation. They are apparently happy to be the lowest paid in the industry, which is where they are going to stay for a looooooooong time.

"Hey look at me I'm the most senior pilot at the crapiest airline, I helped to create." Good response Eastholes.

Dead, looks like you left already. I'm hoping to go somewhere else and maybe US Airways will go bye bye like it should have before AWA saved it.

Now really tell me how strong and how industry leading AW was in the past 15-20 years?!?!? HAHAHAH ya right.....

 

[captfred]

Now really tell me how strong and how industry leading AW was in the past 15-20 years?!?!? HAHAHAH ya right.....

I was a Captain on a 800,000 pound jet 6 years after being hired at AWA. We were hiring and doing Captain upgrades at the 5 year point at the time we acquired that twice bankrupt "out of airspeed and ideas" airline. Yep, we looked pretty rotten compared to your winning organization. That must be why a 17 year CLT based F/O quit to start over as a new hire at AWA back in late 2004/early 2005 time frame.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Actually I think the recall was hindered due to the merger. See if you look at staffing levels and how they ran the east...

Oh REALLY?! You suppose you would have been recalled to fly the rest of the fleet into the desert? So technically for one week or so you'd be right. Because absent the merger, there would be no USAirways.

Or, as you would say, really "barebones" staffing!:laugh:

The downward momentum at US was so powerful, nothing except a giant landing pad called the west pilot group could stop it.

So if you like to fly big shiny airplanes regardless of cost or loss, and you dedicate yourselves to making career decisions based solely on fear, US must be your kind of place.

BUT- If you like flying airplanes for wages and benefits that are in line with the rest of the airline industry, and you can separate the reasonable and likely outcomes from the wildly off-the-wall stuff that scares folks into blind obediance, then you're probably working to get rid of USAPA.

Welcome aboard!

 

[5w5flyer]

Has there been hiring off the street yet?

I believe that so far the recent hiring has been from the pool or guys from Piedmont.

 

[Crzipilot]

I was a Captain on a 800,000 pound jet 6 years after being hired at AWA. We were hiring and doing Captain upgrades at the 5 year point at the time we acquired that twice bankrupt "out of airspeed and ideas" airline. Yep, we looked pretty rotten compared to your winning organization. That must be why a 17 year CLT based F/O quit to start over as a new hire at AWA back in late 2004/early 2005 time frame.

so many things wrong with that statement. What was your salary for your big 800,000 lb jet back when you flew it for a year or two or less????

Pilots make bad decisions, what's your excuse?

 

[Crzipilot]

Oh REALLY?! You suppose you would have been recalled to fly the rest of the fleet into the desert? So technically for one week or so you'd be right. Because absent the merger, there would be no USAirways.

Or, as you would say, really "barebones" staffing!:laugh:

The downward momentum at US was so powerful, nothing except a giant landing pad called the west pilot group could stop it.

So if you like to fly big shiny airplanes regardless of cost or loss, and you dedicate yourselves to making career decisions based solely on fear, US must be your kind of place.

BUT- If you like flying airplanes for wages and benefits that are in line with the rest of the airline industry, and you can separate the reasonable and likely outcomes from the wildly off-the-wall stuff that scares folks into blind obediance, then you're probably working to get rid of USAPA.

Welcome aboard!

Absent the merger, your butt woulda been on the street had you been on the bottom 30% of the AWA list. Fact.....


If I'm left standing with a lottery ticket that I haven't been able to cash for 3 years, and my wife is getting tired of me sending 100.00/month to AOL and scraping two nickels together to buy a 40 on sundays, I'd probably pick AWA as the airline of choice.....

 

[Deadalus]

Actually I think the recall was hindered due to the merger. See if you look at staffing levels and how they ran the east, they were pairing it down to match the West. Once the merger was announced, mysteriously the staffing levels on the east came back up to at least match the west. They ran the east bare bones, most likely to help facilitate that merger.

Recall hindered due to merger? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! You bonehead, you guys were one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. FACT!!!!! You guys are unfriggin believable.

 

[St. Nic]

CRZ pilot is dead on, the AWA sponge soaked up some of our east flying because PHX is dead dead dead. The east is pulling the west along, hopefully you will be sold to republic and live among your regional folk. Goodday.

 

[Bringupthebird]

"our east flying". Of course you know there is no such thing, just as there is no "our list" or "our hubs" and the viability of the entire airline relies on ALL the current hubs to generate enough revenue to drag around such unproductive and wasteful relics such as line bidding, F/A-Pilot co-pairing, etc, etc,

 

[Bringupthebird]

Absent the merger, your butt woulda been on the street had you been on the bottom 30% of the AWA list. Fact....

Probably more like 10-15% but likely for a year or maybe 18 months, then on with the show. The circus tent at US would have come down permanently leaving USAir as nothing more than an answer to a Trivial Pursuit question.

I love the "You're gonna get sold to Republic" taunt, but for best effect get a 6 year old to say it, maybe with a little "Doody face!!" at the end. It's all in the delivery!

 

[ALGFLYR]

I was a Captain on a 800,000 pound jet 6 years after being hired at AWA. We were hiring and doing Captain upgrades at the 5 year point at the time we acquired that twice bankrupt "out of airspeed and ideas" airline. Yep, we looked pretty rotten compared to your winning organization. That must be why a 17 year CLT based F/O quit to start over as a new hire at AWA back in late 2004/early 2005 time frame.

Did you fly your big 800,000 pound jet internationally??? Like to Austrailia??? Things that make you go hmmm...

 

[captfred]

Did you fly your big 800,000 pound jet internationally??? Like to Austrailia??? Things that make you go hmmm...

Our 4 former KLM 747-200's never went to Australia num nutz-not once. Internationally they went to Nagoya Japan and the middle east bringing our troops back from Operation Desert Storm. Perhaps your pea-sized angry F/O brain can recall that little dust up.

 

[TWA Dude]

The east is pulling the west along...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgAkRU583fg

 

[ALGFLYR]

Our 4 former KLM 747-200's never went to Australia num nutz-not once. Internationally they went to Nagoya Japan and the middle east bringing our troops back from Operation Desert Storm. Perhaps your pea-sized angry F/O brain can recall that little dust up.

Oh, that's right, just your pilots went there... And I do remember that "dust up" well... lost a family member there... He made the ultimate sacrifice to allow you to call other people names... you don't even know me or anything about me, yet you call me names and try to insult me personally... I challenge you to find even ONE post I have ever written that I did that... You can't... I rarely ever post on here so as not to get caught up in this type of childish sandbox fighting and name calling...

 

[captfred]

Oh, that's right, just your pilots went there... And I do remember that "dust up" well... lost a family member there... He made the ultimate sacrifice to allow you to call other people names... you don't even know me or anything about me, yet you call me names and try to insult me personally... I challenge you to find even ONE post I have ever written that I did that... You can't... I rarely ever post on here so as not to get caught up in this type of childish sandbox fighting and name calling...

I am sorry about the loss of your family member. Was it immediate family? My reserve squadron was not called up for ODS.

Since you do not enjoy it here perhaps your free time might be better spent on the negiotating commitee. Not seeing much progress there. How is section 22 coming along BTW?

You are right -I don't know you. I dont want to either: not now, not ever.

 

[Taco Rocket]

Did you fly your big 800,000 pound jet internationally??? Like to Austrailia??? Things that make you go hmmm...

Are you talking about the Cactus boys that scabbed in Australia?

 

[Crzipilot]

Capt Fred.......GFYS

 

[PHXFLYR]

so many things wrong with that statement. What was your salary for your big 800,000 lb jet back when you flew it for a year or two or less????

Pilots make bad decisions, what's your excuse?

....probably no more than your butt buddies are getting for flying the 330 across the pond today. And I'm sure a heck of a lot more than what you where getting as a career F/O flying 310,000 lb jets for Arrow Air out of MIA back in the day.

PHXFLYR

 

[MCDU]

Mike! Back in the day you were flying a 30 seat prop. and the only airline that would hire you was AWA.

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