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[PreContact]

The majority of new hires will be assigned ANC MD-11 or 747-400 F/O so they are looking for pilots who are familiar with heavy int'l flying out of a demanding domicile. The ball's in their court, so you really can't blame them for instituing this requirement although it does stink for many who have been patiently waiting.

 

[billjohnson321]

I spent two hours on this and got the" thanks for applying, but we have many qualified applicants" bs message.UPS ain't nothing but a trucking company with airplanes.

 

[PreContact]

Did you check the all the boxes for int'l flying? I see you have an MD-11 rating so I assume you've done all the oceanic stuff...

 

[billjohnson321]

yeah i checked every box they had

 

[freightdawg]

Fear not....

Quoted from that *other* pilot message board out there, posted today...

Quote:
Originally Posted by C.....
Why is it after you fill out the app, it says this next:

Congratulations! You have now completed the application for employment at UPS. The next step in the process is to schedule an appointment to come in to a UPS facility or to a recruiting location. After choosing an appointment time, you will be given directions to the facility and told what to expect at the appointment and what to bring.

The next available appointment is on:

There are no more appointments available.

We're sorry but there are no appointment times currently available. You may check back at a later time to see if more appointment times have been made available. To do this, simply return to 'My Job Inquiries' at www.upsjobs.com, select your application and then click on the Schedule button. You may now either close your browser window or click on the "Logout" link on the upper left side of the page.

from what I have been told... the air ops side of the house has been "forced" into using the same system as all other departments. Air Ops does not use that appointment feature.

Good Luck!

 

[kermit99]

Ups

Got the thanks for applying message also (etc), so, should we call or stit back and wait to see if they look at our applications? Are we screwed till the next opening?

 

[stupidpilot]

I tried to get back into my app to update some things but it wouldn't let me. Do you guys know how to?

 

[kermit99]

Can't get back into your app, feel the frustration with the rest of us. I need to update my hours since I did not do the 0.3 hr/sortie conversion for military. I have 900 PIC hours and 300 IP hours, so added together equal 1200 hours PIC flying the C-17 transoceanic. Did I fill that in wrong and I did not see anywhere to upload my resume, did anyone else? So my app is on file and got the standard message that others are probably getting. I will probably go to the Air Inc conference in May to talk with their HR, would others suggest that so I can give them my full resume even if I may have screwed up on the online application? Any thoughts would help. Also trying to talk with a pilot I know for UPS. I feel very frustrated since I have waited the last two months to get it in. Thanks for the help.

 

[BIGBROWNDC8]

I have bad news for the regional guys... As I stated before, the discussion regarding two different types of application submissions has become a reality.

The window for Heavy Oceanic Crossing type pilots is now open.

There will be a application window for guys with Regional/Less than heavy, Oceanic crossing time. When that window will opened will be based on demand. Currently, UPS needs the Heavy Oceanic crossing type pilots to be able to fill those position in ANC and fly the MD-11 and the 747-400. One thing is for sure, if you are applying to UPS now, you will be moving to ANC Alaska...

If you dont have the type of flying time that UPS needs now, just be patient and hopefully, UPS will open the window to all types of aviators soon...

Again, Good Luck everyone...
BBDC8

 

[CCDiscoB]

One thing is for sure, if you are applying to UPS now, you will be moving to ANC Alaska...

Is that REALLY all there is when you get assigned in training? I'm debating what to do, if I could avoid ANC I would be more inclinded to apply. Commuting out of there would be impossible.

 

[kermit99]

BIGBROWNDC8, I have all the quals and my application says "on file." Will they even look at it eventhough at the end it said it had enough qualified pilots?

 

[Fedora]

Mine shows "active" and "complete" and allows me to see and edit it.
The site still shows appointments not available.
Good luck to all!

 

[kermit99]

Thanks, mine says "on file" and complete, not attention required at this time. Just curious to others if this means they will not look at later or if your quals did not add up. If not, how can anyone not go and update it with good times, especially if it adds up over the year. Oh, and to check and make sure their app is all up to date. Thanks for the help.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Is that REALLY all there is when you get assigned in training? I'm debating what to do, if I could avoid ANC I would be more inclinded to apply. Commuting out of there would be impossible.

My guess would be that there is a 90% chance you would get ANC if you have MD11 experience.

 

[AV80R]

Don't give up!

The software kicked me out. If you don't answer ALL min questions as yes, I assume you will get kicked out also. I'm studying for the FE Written TODAY!!!

ATPCLIFF – The “FE currency” has been covered quite extensively here (use search function if you want). UPS (and I believe FedEx too) wants an FE written that’s no more than 24 months old (unless you have an FE ticket which of course never expires).

In other words, UPS does not accept the “121 exemption” for the FE written (…even though the FE written has expired it might be “current” if you’re working at a 121 carrier, etc… FAA yes – UPS – NO)

Folks, this application window is so elusive, please make sure you meet all the requirements before you fill it out – otherwise you might get locked out and in worst case might have to wait until next year before you can apply again. Fortunately for you the software kicked you out, in worst case you'd have gotten the “thanks but no thanks – you do not meet the minimums…” message.

I got in today and it accepted my application. It then thanked me but said I wouldn't be considered further. It must have an automatic scoring system to determine how viable you are even if you meet the mins.

Unfortunately, if you answered NO to any of the questions, for example regarding the Oceanic crossings experience, etc, I believe you’ll get the thanks but no thanks reply. Don’t give up quite yet, read below…


Guys/gals – please do not give up on UPS even though the application process seems to be so complicated and elusive.

Right now they want pilots with heavy and international experience but don’t give up. Eventually they’ll make this “requirement” a plus but not a straight requirement and they’ll start hiring regional guys again. They’ve always been very proud of hiring a great mix of pilots, part 121, 135, even 91, civilian, military, guard - they’ll do it again before you know it.

I know it’s very frustrating but please be patient and keep trying. It took me almost 8 years before it finally happened and there were times I thought about just giving up. Fortunately my friends wouldn’t let me and kept cheering me up and I kept reapplying and going to all those job fairs and then all of a sudden it happened.

I’m really not quite sure what I’m trying to say except maybe to “cheer” some of y’all up because I’ve been there and I know what it feels like. So once again, if you get a message “thanks but no thanks” because you do not meet one of their requirements right now - don’t give up! Keep checking every few months and hopefully sooner than later they’ll change the rules.

If not, look into Gemini, Kalitta, etc, they seem to be training their pilots just quickly enough for UPS and Fedex to snap them up.

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[Mooseflyer]

I need to update my hours since I did not do the 0.3 hr/sortie conversion for military. I did not see anywhere to upload my resume, did anyone else?

Kermit,
The app specifially says NOT to include a military converstion when entering flight time. Also, they don't consider any "relief pilot" time as PIC - I'm assuming that means our military "other" time is out.

I was able to upload my resume.

 

[Mooseflyer]

For you guys who are getting a message of some kind - how are you getting them? Via email? Pop-up?

I didn't get a message of any kind when I finsihed my app - the only difference is the red "!" next to it went away and I can now see the "schedule an appointment with an HR prfessional" link.

 

[AV80R]

Moose - did you do the psych eval yet? It sounds like you're about to get an interview - good luck to you

 

[kermit99]

I did not add in the mil conversion time. So I put in 900 PIC, 300 Instructor for C-17, with a total of around 1200 PIC hours for the app. I dont have a clue as to why I would not be eligable or looked at. Maybe I missed something on the app.

 

[Mooseflyer]

AV8 - I sure hope you're right, that would certainly make my day. I haven't done any kind of psych eval, but then again I just finished my app about 12 hours ago. How is one notified to take the psych eval?