UPS Poolies and futre pilots

[Wise Guy]

You guys are right. I'm way out of line. I'll vote yes no matter what.

 

[UPSer]

You guys are right. I'm way out of line. I'll vote yes no matter what.

Thanks for seeing the light, this is too great a company to ruin by us being too greedy now.

 

[klhoard]

Wow, now there is a line or reasoning you don't hear very often. . .

"My company is making Record Profits, so I want a pay cut"

YGBSM. . . .

 

[UPSer]

Wow, now there is a line or reasoning you don't hear very often. . .

"My company is making Record Profits, so I want a pay cut"

YGBSM. . . .

I think what is meant by that is that we are taking concessions to ensure the profitability continues.

 

[capt. megadeth]

I understand what you guys/gals are saying (not getting too greedy and keeping your job) but I heard the company is making billions. Why would you need a pay cut? Sounds like typical airline management bull$hit to me. WTF?

 

[UPSer]

I understand what you guys/gals are saying (not getting too greedy and keeping your job) but I heard the company is making billions. Why would you need a pay cut? Sounds like typical airline management bull$hit to me. WTF?

Quite frankly, I'm overpaid as it is for what I do. A reasonable concessionary package to help the company grow would be alright with me.

 

[TonyC]

Quite frankly, I'm overpaid as it is for what I do. A reasonable concessionary package to help the company grow would be alright with me.

Apparently it has been difficult for UPS to weather the tough economic times of the recent past - - with pilot wages so high, it's a miracle they've posted record profits.


Somebody please tell me I accidentally entered the YGBSM section.

 

[Rhoid]

Is it true that FedEx management plans on using the new UPS contract as a guide for their negotiations? If so does that mean that FedEx pilots can anticipate concessions as well to stay competitive with UPS?

 

[TonyC]

Is it true that FedEx management plans on using the new UPS contract as a guide for their negotiations? If so does that mean that FedEx pilots can anticipate concessions as well to stay competitive with UPS?

I'm gonna go out on a very short yet stout limb here and speak for the majority of FedEx pilots:


FedEx will become a trucking company before FedEx pilots agree to concessions.


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[UPSer]

I'm gonna go out on a very short yet stout limb here and speak for the majority of FedEx pilots:


FedEx will become a trucking company before FedEx pilots agree to concessions.


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That's not a very good attitude to have if you want your company to grow and prosper. You must realize what both of our companies are up against, the German invasion, they are a serious player.

 

[TonyC]

That's not a very good attitude to have if you want your company to grow and prosper. You must realize what both of our companies are up against, the German invasion, they are a serious player.

I'll steer clear of your invitation to get personal and attack attitudes. Instead, I invite you to explain to me and all those reading here how my wages have hindered the record growth at FedEx. Tell me how my outrageous pay rates risked the several cash acquisitions FedEx has made during these tough economic times, including Kinkos. Tell me how my ridiculously large paycheck has jeapodized the growth of FedEx stock - - how it has put serious doubts in the minds of stockholders who fear for the future of our perilously leveraged company. Tell me - - please tell me - - how a cost of living increase in pay rates will endanger the future of my company.


And please PLEASE tell me you're NOT on the IPA negotiating committee.

 

[UPS DC8]

Yea, Right!!

UPSer, you are no doubt in management at UPS. If you arn't, you need to get your application in ASAP. Not only have I not heard a line pilot say such BS, but I've never even heard management spue such garbage!!! I sure hope your kidding.

 

[VaB]

FedEx will become a trucking company before FedEx pilots agree to concessions.

I have noticed alot of trucks parked along Democrat these last couple of weeks. I've never seen so many sitting around not being used. I think it's going to happen soon.

 

[Falconjet]

OK, enough of the funny stuff. UPSer, I was trying really hard to be nice, BUT you really need to try some decaf if you are so willing to bend over for a company that is making money hand over fist, hiring management captains off the street, and hasn't hired a line pilot in over three years without the slightest hesitation.

As a matter of fact, a FedEx spokeswoman has already gone on record with the press that they are going to give us a raise. Now I know that is just talk for the shareholders to keep them from getting their panties all wadded up. Still, I have to emphatically agree with TonyC that the FedEx pilot group not only is looking forward to but will demand improvements in work rules, pay and benefits as some small payback for the massive contribution we make to our bottom line, as evidenced by our record breaking 47% jump in profit over last year.

I wouldn't in a million years imagine having to conceed anything to "ensure" that the company will remain profitable. Nor should you. You are either a pushover with too little self esteem for your hard work and sacrifice each night on the job, or you are a management stool trying to spoil the water here on the internet.

Also, although we are keeping an eye on the negotiations over at UPS, I can also assure you that we won't be basing our contract on yours, but on what we know we are worth to our company. Interesting, but not necessarily pertinent to our situation, particularly if you are just going to bend over and take concessions while the company is making money and the projections for future increases in shipping continue unabated. In any case, hopefully both our negotiations will be resolved sooner than later.

Best of luck to all of you at UPS.

FJ

 

[UPSer]

OK, enough of the funny stuff. UPSer
FJ

You're right, enough of the funny stuff. I ran into a FedEx crew a few weeks back and they asked how negotiations were going, so I thought it would be a hoot to tell them that our concessions weren't going to be as bad as we originally feared. The pictures on their faces was priceless! What I wouldn't have done for a camera at that moment!

Lighten up everybody, the UPS pilot group will be getting major improvements in all areas of the contract.