We will still be in DAY after December, as far as the disgusting looking people with dirty uniforms that work for CAT, I definitely have to agree with you. Remember at CAT its two different types of people - the ones using it as a stepping stone going up, or the guys that can't go anywhere else and are going down. Just type in the last names of some of the guys at CAT in Google, wow some have had quite a past, violations, felonies, we got it all at CAT!