pilotmiketx
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Shamus said:She is banging the CP, she got the job with 300 total time.
BluDevAv8r said:Yes, she is attractive. Yes, she got hired with low time. Yes, she is on the younger side.
-Neal
STREAKS said:...yes she's got nice attributes, yes she may be a little underqualified and would have not landed this job if she were a dude, yes, yes, ohh yes...
Hey the point is BlueDivaAviator, gals have it way too easy in this industry, and pretty hard to. I mean if she looked like oh, I dont know, Bertha the arm wrestler, I don't think we'd be having this conversation right now.
I eagerly await your argument.
STREAKS said:WOULD I?!?!?!
Id be the first one on top that CP.
The dudes I know that got on with low time, are the bigges a$$ kissers I've ever seen, or their daddy/uncle own half the fleet. Kiss A$$, inflate the CP, kinda the same things I guess when you thing about it. Oh by the way, I don't appreciate the dudes that get hired flying a lear with 300 hours either. Matter of fact, and you may not want to admit it, or you are one of those dudes, you dont value their presence. As far as the women having a hard time in aviation, well, they do and don't. Some people love to see a pretty face in the cockpit attached to a logbook with 326 hours and a wide eyed look (like a good friend of mine, who, by the way openly admits to women having it "way too easy" after she had 2 offers in corp flying just a couple hours prior to her commercial multi ticket, flying an Astra and a Citation). I almost cry when I think about how hard her life has been. Then again, some people like to see experience. Seems to be the case with me. I've tried to get a 135 gig out of the northwest, I look pretty good for a dude (or so my wife keeps telling me), and, to this point, no luck. Maybee I lack experience?
You are right about one thing. Some people do have it a lot easier, and some a heck of a lot harder.
BluDevAv8r said:But...she is also a very intelligent person who happens to be driven, ambitious, have solid morals and a great work ethic. She is also a good pilot with good instincts and is every bit as passionate about this aviation industry as the rest of us. She will do very well in this industry, despite the jealousy and stereotyping by some and the misdirected venom and idiocy by others. She definitely does not deserve any of the above.
say again said:I am intelligent, driven, ambitious, have great morals and work ethics, have decent pilot skills with great instincts, BUT I didn't get a job flying a Lear at 300 hrs.:bawling: Why not?? Quick answer, I'm a male!!:laugh: :laugh: :beer:
Females are going to get jobs because of gender and looks (over more highly qualified candidates, male or female), and can bet people are going to react the same as they do now. Like it or not, it will not change!!!!:erm:
STREAKS said:Well lets see, where should we start.
1-I am not accusing you of being a 300 hour wonder boy. Read the statement a little more carefuly, between the lines if you will.
2-Credible and qualified women pilots are fine with me too. I am not against women here, sir, I am against 300-800 hour so called pilots possesing superhuman inteligence. I once had a student who kept pushing HER being recodnised as a genious in my face. She could not fly to save her life, despite her alleged IQ. There are very few things in life that can replace experience when it comes to flying. Even MENSA's brightest will have trouble flying a jet to the tee with 300 hours of CE172 time.
3-Networking: I don't care how good your social skills are, but if I have a Lear that I would like to keep in the condition that its in righ now, I am not hiring a low time pilot. Network well, huh? What can a 300 hour pilot sell you on, in order to convince you to hire him/HER to fly your Lear? Would you not rather have a pilot with 2000+ hours, multi time up the wazoo, and jet time to boot? I know I would. I'd hire a low timer to wash the plane, build time instructing, and maybe, just maybee I'll let him fly me around in a year or two.
4-Politics: hated them in 121 world, hate them to this day in the 135/91 world. Nuf said.
To summarize, I'd rather see good things happen to people who worked hard to get where they are going, rather than talk sweet.
BluDevAv8r said:This is an entirely different issue than what I was initially upset about. I am not a proponent, believe it or not, of putting under-qualified people in airplanes. What I was upset about was that people were publicly slamming an individual - a good one at that - when she did nothing wrong but take an opportunity...especially since most of the people on this thread don't know the first thing about her.
-Neal
This is freekin funny, pointless, yet funny!BluDevAv8r said:You did suggest I "might be one of those dudes" when referring to a low time jet new hire.
-Neal
One more thing, there champ. I wasn't slamming this little gal of yours, $exual innuendos aside. My opinion remains, want quality, put in quality time, not quality lipservice, (again keeping it clean).BluDevAv8r said:This is an entirely different issue than what I was initially upset about. I am not a proponent, believe it or not, of putting under-qualified people in airplanes. What I was upset about was that people were publicly slamming an individual - a good one at that - when she did nothing wrong but take an opportunity...especially since most of the people on this thread don't know the first thing about her.
-Neal