United posts $779 million loss

[RDG]

SWA pulled out of IAH in a deal with CAL about direct flights to or from somewhere. I forgot the details, it was a while ago. Back to your childish bickering.

 

[ultrarunner]

Is it just me, or does anyone find it fairly impressive that United even HAD a quarter of a billion dollars to even flush down the toilet in 90 days.

Impressive indeed!

 

[GuppyWN]

Hey. United has a GREAT route system. Inefficiency and implementation is the key - aint apparently Glenn Tilton isn't the man to do it.

Gup

 

[Flopgut]

Couldn't stand the smell.

Gup

That was the scent of the 800 pound gorrilla that follows your "success" around.

Hobby? Not fragrant.

 

[Flopgut]

SWA pulled out of IAH in a deal with CAL about direct flights to or from somewhere. I forgot the details, it was a while ago. Back to your childish bickering.

CAL flew CLE to HOU and SWA took exception to it. A deal was cut, and IMHO, SWA pussed out.

 

[Mr.B]

Hey. United has a GREAT route system. Inefficiency and implementation is the key - aint apparently Glenn Tilton isn't the man to do it.

Gup

Hence, the website:

Home - Save United - Remove Glenn Tilton

Tell your friends.

 

[pipe]

I particularly loved Glen's message line. Two paragraphs about getting hammered by fuel prices. Not one word mentioning that the 130/bbl prices were self-imposed through incompetent hedging.

The problem is that 99% of the press/investors/employees that read his explanation will think "Man, they really got killed by those fuel prices. I think I'll pick up a rotisserie chicken on the way home and watch Springer tonight".

PIPE

 

[UAL-GSO]

Well you may not agree with me and some do and don't. This is a cut throat industry. If every airline does great and everyone made money, life would be great. Well the simple fact is that this is not the case. Some companies are going to beat others for one of them to succeed. There is no other way about it. I just want my team to win. Plain and simple. Call it callous, call it ignorant.... call it honest. If the shoes were changed I would be pissed just like you and you would ringing the bell like me. I just hope that never happens. The fact that this is not a personal thing...it is a business thing. We keep forgetting that.

I'm not pissed. I am a realist - that's why I took a voluntary furlough to get away from the whole airline debacle. Honesty is good - but so is tact and humility. If you are a student of this industry, then you know that airlines rise and airlines fall. You may think you hit the airline "jackpot" at LUV - go ahead and enjoy that feeling. Just remember that giants do fall and "shoes do change". You hope that never happens at LUV - good - keep hoping. I hope for your sake it does not either. I promise you one thing though, if you ever find yourself in those shoes, as thousands of your colleages in this business have, it will feel very personal.

 

[GuppyWN]

That was the scent of the 800 pound gorrilla that follows your "success" around.

Hobby? Not fragrant.

There you go trying to sniff my ass again! I gotta admit this is funny. Silly but funny. Two grown men in a pissing contest via the internet - neither of which can do a damn thing to alter the path their CEO's choose. I hope you have a long and prosperous career in IAH. I'll stick to the west coast flying my corndog.

Gup

 

[SFR]

Why can't UAL just give up and shut down? Make room for the strong carriers!!!!

 

[Flopgut]

There you go trying to sniff my ass again! I gotta admit this is funny. Silly but funny. Two grown men in a pissing contest via the internet - neither of which can do a damn thing to alter the path their CEO's choose. I hope you have a long and prosperous career in IAH. I'll stick to the west coast flying my corndog.

Gup

You're really not picking up on the subtle jab; Or you're ignoring it....

You're right, who cares? Take care.

 

[whatitdoing?]

You know, I'm on UAL-GSO's side here. No one is safe and to start salivating at the thought of UAL going under and a lot of families without a paycheck is deplorable. I can only imagine being at UAL with a family and watching this unfold. Best of luck to you all............

 

[Mach 80]

flopgut,


>>>> Midway should be closed to transport category and SWA ought to be banned from O'Hare AND any new Chicago airport for 25 years. That ought to make up for the WA..in Chicago!...then let's do the same in Dallas and Houston. Then let's see a chart and check in with the airline analysts on both SWA and UAL. How would that look?<<<<

ANY airline could operate out of Dallas Love under the Wright Amendment....no one was stopping them. They just didn't want to. The WA was too restrictive for them but SWA could live with it...and did.

As far as SWA and IAH -- there was no deal struck with CAL --thats just a BS rumor. SWA simply found their assets (i.e airplanes) could make more money elsewhere and made more sense with connections.

 

[PulluP]

Southwest loses $2 BILLION in value of fuel hedges in first 15 days of October

Southwest is affected just like everyone else....


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/102108dnbusswfuel.37dca64.html

 

[jetflier]

Like everyone said before...If someone like United fails..everyone else will pick up the people. Every airline would be full and back to making money...I don't wish ill fate on anyone but I want my company to make money and secure ME a future in this business. Read into however you want.

If we pilots viewed our jobs like the plumbers do, there would never be a statement where we wish that another plumber would go out of business so we could do better and make more money.

For a second, just imagine the pressure put on a plumber in a city where, instead of charging the minimum rate of $50/hour, he undercut a job and only charged $20/hour. I'd be that he would have a lot of pressure from other plumbers and the union to charge the minimum rate.

Perhaps its time to start thinking like a plumber, support each other and hopefully make what they do.

 

[Ameriagle]

He's talking about IAH you retard. The place that SWA couldn't make a go of so they pulled out. You and Gup are truely grade a a$$holes. Gup is almost saying outloud that he wants to see UAL go under. What a pr!ck. My buddy says he uses the same screen name on another message board just for SWA guys and he loves talking up the demise of others over there as well.

I sure hope what goes around doesn't come around.

You and your buddies really sit around talking about who post what online? Niiice!

 

[Whine Lover]

If we pilots viewed our jobs like the plumbers do, there would never be a statement where we wish that another plumber would go out of business so we could do better and make more money.

For a second, just imagine the pressure put on a plumber in a city where, instead of charging the minimum rate of $50/hour, he undercut a job and only charged $20/hour. I'd be that he would have a lot of pressure from other plumbers and the union to charge the minimum rate.

Perhaps its time to start thinking like a plumber, support each other and hopefully make what they do.

I Love it...


Try this line on a plumber ( electrician, garbage man, whomever ):

"Hey, have I got a deal for you! How about you come over to my house and fix my toilet? I'll pay you for the hour that it takes to repair it at your Hourly Rate of $50/hr. Then I want you to stay at my house and keep me company for another 23 hours. I will supply a FREE bed and bath AND pay you $1.85/hr so you can go buy a few $9.00 hamburgers and some $4.00 beers...Such a DEAL! "

He'd either walk away laughing, clobber you with his pipe wrench, or agree to $50/hr for 24 hours.

Hell, I'll undercut the plumber:

I'll fly 737 left seat for $44.50 an hour....TAFB ( with certain minimums of course).

YKMKR