United goes for Boeing

[luckytohaveajob]

$9 Billion order yet not pilot contract.

The new pitch is going to be you can all upgrade and we will take the planes if the pilots pay for them and give management another bonus.

 

[Homer Jay]

$9 Billion order yet not pilot contract.

The new pitch is going to be you can all upgrade and we will take the planes if the pilots pay for them and give management another bonus.

That won't fly. They're replacement aircraft and even if they weren't, FUPM!!!!

 

[TWA Dude]

The shame here is on the FAA. How a -200 and a -900ER is allowed to be the same type is beyond me.

DC9, MD80, B717. All common type. At least the FAA is consistent.

 

[Ex737Driver]

I prefer fifi over the guppy; it's a much better cockpit design. And I've got no issues with the way it flies.

As for the analog on glass, CAL went with that long ago to allow all guppy pilots to fly with one certificate. They've been looking at going to the standard PFD but Boeing wants additional money to convert them over plus there will need to be some aircrew training.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the conversion to standard PFDs after all 500s are gone .... not that 500s are the issue but at that point, all guppies will be NGs.

Bottom line is that TheBigPicture was spot on when he said it costs $.

And the 767 is better than the bus and the 777 is better than the 767 and the 747 is better than the yadda, yadda, yadda. Who cares? The bus is a POS that cant make the west coast in the winter. The 75 is worthless over the pond. The 76 is a pig when full. The 777 makes you lose your flying skills. My johnson is bigger than yours. Ok, that's true.

 

[tie1on]

miracle lure part 2, remember the 787. no contract anywhere to be seen. the ultimate meltdown is about to happen, bad management decisions will bring the company to its knee's.

this place wil fail within 5 years by the idiots who run UNITED HOLDING COMPANY

 

[texman]

It will have a similar set up as the 787 with push button overhead. Still same type. No system change.

 

[IAHERJ]

I would look for another aircraft order later this year. This will be the widebody order and quite possibly an airbus order.

 

[Andy]

I would look for another aircraft order later this year. This will be the widebody order and quite possibly an airbus order.

I'd prefer to see a small guage narrowbody order. The 737 order is for 737-900s and Max 9s. If they're going to order 737s, I'd like to see some 737-600s ordered. If Airbus, then A-319s.

This order leaves a huge gap allowing for scope creep above 100 seats.

 

[Flyer1015]

Just in terms of comfort and noise, both in the back (cabin) and up front (flight deck), I'd take an A320 over a B737NG anyday.

 

[dicko]

It will have a similar set up as the 787 with push button overhead. Still same type. No system change.

Tex,

Where'd you hear that ? Any chance that they'll fix the slow death by heat, cold, noise and Fans' ?

 

[eaglesview]

Any chance they will come into the 21st century and allow engine starts without manually turning on and off packs. How about a temp control system that actually works. The inward swinging cargo doors have always been a problem for cargo...they never fixed that. (that's why they are going to take UAL airbus' south out of Houston) I am sure there are things the 737 will excell in but these things should have been fixed long ago.

 

[igneousy2]

I'd prefer to see a small guage narrowbody order. The 737 order is for 737-900s and Max 9s. If they're going to order 737s, I'd like to see some 737-600s ordered. If Airbus, then A-319s.

This order leaves a huge gap allowing for scope creep above 100 seats.

The numbers aren't that great for 737-700's unless you run them single class (i.e. SWA) the 600 is even worse which is why hardly anyone has purchased the 737-600 and no domestic carriers have.

A 737-700 and a 737-800 have very similar operating cost. One power-point slide I was shown had the operating cost of a 700 and 800 within a few hundred dollars of each other on the same 1,000 mile segment with the 700 having 30 less seats. So unless you use the specific stregnths of the 600/700 (slightly shorter fields, and slightly longer range) I don't think the short 737's work very well (relatively speaking).

 

[Ex737Driver]

The numbers aren't that great for 737-700's unless you run them single class (i.e. SWA) the 600 is even worse which is why hardly anyone has purchased the 737-600 and no domestic carriers have.

A 737-700 and a 737-800 have very similar operating cost. One power-point slide I was shown had the operating cost of a 700 and 800 within a few hundred dollars of each other on the same 1,000 mile segment with the 700 having 30 less seats. So unless you use the specific stregnths of the 600/700 (slightly shorter fields, and slightly longer range) I don't think the short 737's work very well (relatively speaking).

-700 will make it SNA-EWR with 124 paxs, full bags, and gas. Can't do that with a -800 or a -900ER.

 

[Andy]

The numbers aren't that great for 737-700's unless you run them single class (i.e. SWA) the 600 is even worse which is why hardly anyone has purchased the 737-600 and no domestic carriers have.

A 737-700 and a 737-800 have very similar operating cost. One power-point slide I was shown had the operating cost of a 700 and 800 within a few hundred dollars of each other on the same 1,000 mile segment with the 700 having 30 less seats. So unless you use the specific stregnths of the 600/700 (slightly shorter fields, and slightly longer range) I don't think the short 737's work very well (relatively speaking).

That's a comparison between 737s. How about a comparison of the -600 vs LarJs (large RJs)? CASM, range, cargo capacity, any other pertinent stats.

My concern is that an order of only 737-900s and Max 9s leaves a huge aircraft guage gap between those airframes and 70 seat RJs. This kind of order leaves the door open for 100+ seat RJ flying being farmed out to the regional carriers.

 

[catIIIc]

Only if we let them.