United Flt 93 CVR Transcript

[HMR]

I knew it was either your son or daughter, just couldn't figure out why someone would post a pic of his offspring on a internet forum that is full of hate.

Or why you'd make negative comments about another person's kid?

 

[El Ocho]

What a yucky thread!

Hate begets hate.

War begets more war.

Deaths beget more deaths.

Cause of all that seems to be religious extremists, and others operating out of positions of ANGER. Chill on the emotions and absolutism.

Personally, I don't think the answer lies in bombing countries. How about we try bombing terrorists, rather than countries were the citizens appear to our untrained western eye as terrorists.

I don't think the "liberals" or most sensible people are totally anti-agression, just pro-sensible aggression!

You know, fight smarter, not harder.

 

[El Ocho]

I don't remember Ben Franklin having to deal with radical Islamic terrorists in the colonial era though ??? Sort of like trying to tell me that if Orville Wright came back to life he should be teaching the Primus 2000 Avionics package to Embraer 145 new hires. Who the heck spawns people like you anyway ? Geez... Seems like I'm debating the love child of Stuart Smalley and Barbara Boxer.

Of course you don't really address Ben Franklin's comment, just its context. Is he wrong? Are you right? Is morality situational? Do our founding fathers' truths not apply to us anymore? How about that there Constitution? You for or against that?

 

[Doyoucopy]

Or why you'd make negative comments about another person's kid?

you guys are here bashing AN ENTIRE RACE and you want to know why I made a single comment about a kid's picture?

 

[RightBettor]

As I've said in the past...

Never refer to Muslims as "violent" because it will make them angry enough to kill you.

 

[say again]

Not this f-ing debate again!!!!!!!!! Everyone has their views, and I like to hear what people think, but it's ridiculous and childish when people start trashing each other over it. Ya think this may be the problem with the world today?? (Complete sarcasm)

 

[RJP]

Have you ever been to the middle east?

And you flew over it off a boat? Please enlighten us on whatever it was you were trying to point out.

Wolfpakpilot, you're a kook. Straight out of the middle ages. Back to the crusades everyone! Kill them all.

Classic.

 

[RJP]

By the way, I can't believe I wasted my 1000th post on this thread. FCUK®.

 

[treetopflyer]

do you people read any newspapers other than the USeless A Today? Do you wonder why Iran is making nukes? Has the president of Iran ever said that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth? I spend enough time in the sandbox every month to see how the people there treat everyone. They
hate the west. I go to these places regularly Saudi, UAE, Pakistan, Turkey, Bahrain. I can tell you that They are building dubai to be the next center of the world. Say what you want but those that hang out there know what is going on. The President of Iran is building nukes to wipe out the west and he knows that the UN and US will talk about what they should do all the while he is shipping bombs to their destinations on whatever means avail. I am going to predict that there will be a major attack on the west in the next 2-3 years and the deaths from it will make 9/11 look like a picnic. For those of you who think this will simmer down in a few years should pull your head out of the wal-mart bag and look around.

for those of you who have never been there, STFU.

 

[Doyoucopy]

do you people read any newspapers other than the USeless A Today? Do you wonder why Iran is making nukes? Has the president of Iran ever said that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth? I spend enough time in the sandbox every month to see how the people there treat everyone. They
hate the west. I go to these places regularly Saudi, UAE, Pakistan, Turkey, Bahrain. I can tell you that They are building dubai to be the next center of the world. Say what you want but those that hang out there know what is going on. The President of Iran is building nukes to wipe out the west and he knows that the UN and US will talk about what they should do all the while he is shipping bombs to their destinations on whatever means avail. I am going to predict that there will be a major attack on the west in the next 2-3 years and the deaths from it will make 9/11 look like a picnic. For those of you who think this will simmer down in a few years should pull your head out of the wal-mart bag and look around.

for those of you who have never been there, STFU.

Bigotry is alive and well...

Yes, I have been there many times. They seem like normal people trying to live their daily lives.

You think the average arab just sits at home and try to figure out how to make bombs? Get the F..outta here! Since when was it wrong to try to build your cities into one of the world's best? Is that now considered terrorism too?


9/11 sucked big time but let's not blame the whole race.

You must be on W's speed dial and he's feeding you a constant supply of kool aid.

What's next dude? You going to try to tell us there's WMD in iraq? LOL

 

[fastbird]

The 911 commission just looked for a direct link to that event in much the same way there was a link to his politicaly motivated killings of Iraqi citizens. I highly doubt Saddam would have allowed a Taliban type govt or a coup simply because of the way he ruled Iraq. Anyone in opposition to him who started to gain political clout would have been killed. It's pretty easy to rule when you eliminate the opposition and rule thru lies, threats, brutality and intimidation. Remember, he got 100% of the votes in his last election! The people loved him.

My point is, the guy was indirectly involved as a financier with his black market oil sales. There is no way he would have passed on an opportunity to help someone else strike at the USA.

 

[SWA/FO]

Don't blame a whole race - just blame a whole religion. Until those "real" people associated with that religion speak up and do something about it.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Bigotry is alive and well...

Yes, I have been there many times. They seem like normal people trying to live their daily lives.

You think the average arab just sits at home and try to figure out how to make bombs? Get the F..outta here! Since when was it wrong to try to build your cities into one of the world's best? Is that now considered terrorism too?


9/11 sucked big time but let's not blame the whole race.

You must be on W's speed dial and he's feeding you a constant supply of kool aid.

What's next dude? You going to try to tell us there's WMD in iraq? LOL

"dude"..?

having been there many times myself I can say you are F'n clueless if you dont think they hate you and everything the West stands for.

The "arabs" you think are nice to you at the hotels, tourist traps, etc of Dubai....are the workers..and they are usually from Malaysia, Phillipines, etc. Locals dont interact with you. Locals dont work. They HATE you. You stick out like a sore thumb, despite what you think. They tolerate you because your evil Western company is funding them. Get it?

wake up "DUDE"..it might be trendy to play tolerant and loving but thats not reality. Listen to those 9/11 tapes again - and dont think those are "rare" thoughts against the West.

"dude"

 

[1st Overnite]

http://www.break.com/articles/iraqilove.html

here is the link..open at your own risk.

I'm not going to judge a whole race or country just because two ragheads are screwing a donkey They say this same things happens at the end of some dirt roads in Arkansas.

 

[ultrarunner]

Its really makes me sick to read that.

May the pilots and paxs of flight 93 RIP......

Interesting...absolutely no recording of the cockpit door being broken into...the FIRST TIME.

So, who opened it? The FA or the Flight crew.

 

[XGmaninGA]

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[kf4amu]

What's next dude? You going to try to tell us there's WMD in iraq? LOL

I'm not, I'll let the former 2nd in command of Iraq's Air Force under Saddam say it. Oh wait, he already did on the Daily Show last week.

 

[Whidbey]

And you flew over it off a boat? Please enlighten us on whatever it was you were trying to point out.

Wolfpakpilot, you're a kook. Straight out of the middle ages. Back to the crusades everyone! Kill them all.

Classic.

I was boots on the ground for extended periods in Afghanistan and farther west. Had to carry a gun, roll on convoys, etc. and saw extensive interaction with the population, (in addition to flying over both places).

The point I was making is that I had a lot of opinions about the place and the people that were turned on their head after actually experiencing it myself rather than through FOX or CNN.

I just think people should hesitate before making sweeping statments without having experienced it themselves.

Respectfully,

Whidbey

 

[SWA/FO]

We are not talking about RACE. I am taking about a RELIGION. (all CAPS to make it easy for you). Now, if you claim those dudes doing da donkey are Christians - then you might have an arguement there. But they are probably muslim (lower case for a reason) since 95% are muslim over there. I have no respect for them or their religion in the form that they use it. uke:

 

[blzr]

You really believe that terrorism is a recent invention?

Since you seem incapable of making rational conversation without resulting to name calling and insults, I'll leave you to your redneck revolution. Be sure to tell your son how you gave up his freedoms in the name of security.

I don't and on't live in fear of the "secret police". They "secret police" are not out for those that have nothing to hide.

I don't fear the law, but I wish those with bad intentions did.

 

[AAflyer]

Nicely put...I'm with H2, You simply cannot appease these people. There religious fervor does not allow you to rationally reason with them. What's more criminal is there leaderships ability to persuade uneducated or malcontent young Muslims to do their dirty work. If indeed they thought there would be 52 virgins and martyrdom waiting in Nirvana.....why aren't they first in line?

I'm not saying ALL Muslims are this way but you gotta wonder if the Catholics or another mainstream religion had a faction perpetuating these atrocities, You would hope that there would be a out cry from the main stream denouncing this barbarism. Aside from a few mullah's here and there, the SILENCE from the majority is deafening.

Oh yea before I forget, I hope those 19 dirt bags rot in hell.

Koko

It was called the Spanish Inquisition. The Catholics killed thousands...... I am surprised someone could forget that. All that killing in the name of god. ALL religions have their own factions...

regards,
AA

 

[wolfpackpilot]

The President of Iran is building nukes to wipe out the west and he knows that the UN and US will talk about what they should do all the while he is shipping bombs to their destinations on whatever means avail. I am going to predict that there will be a major attack on the west in the next 2-3 years and the deaths from it will make 9/11 look like a picnic. For those of you who think this will simmer down in a few years should pull your head out of the wal-mart bag and look around.

Bingo... We have a winner!


Great Post Man.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

I have no respect for them or their religion in the form that they use it. uke:

Folks, we got another BINGO here...

Thats two winners today!

Good post Man

 

[FN FAL]

I don't and on't live in fear of the "secret police". They "secret police" are not out for those that have nothing to hide.

I don't fear the law, but I wish those with bad intentions did.

You don't fear the LAW, as in legislation, legislative branches or legislators? Meaning; Code, Regulations, Statutes, Ordinances?

Or do you mean the "LAW", as in "John E. Law", the blokes that work in the executive branches of federal, state and local government?

CA: Elderly woman ticketed for "slow walking".
http://www.officer.com/article/artic...ion=1&id=29812

Mayvis Coyle, 82, believes she's not getting a fair shake from the Los Angeles Police Department.

She says she was shuffling with her cane across busy Foothill Boulevard in Sunland Feb. 15, carrying groceries, while a traffic police officer watched and waited.

Even before Coyle finished crossing the intersection at Woodward Avenue, he had scribbled a $114 ticket for crossing against a don't-walk signal, the Daily News reported.

"I entered the crosswalk, it was green," Coyle, who is fighting the citation, told the newspaper. "It turned red before I could get over. There he was, waiting, the motorcycle cop. He said, 'You're obstructing the flow of traffic.'"

Coyle and other seniors at Monte Vista Mobile Estates are up in arms over signals they say are too short to safely cross the five-lane boulevard, the Daily News reported. They say signals turn red before they can reach the opposite curb on Sunland-Tujunga's busiest thoroughfare.

"I am old and I am slow. I walk with a stick. I can't make it across in the amount of time that the light is set for. I understand that it is seven seconds," said Coyle.

So many seniors have complained about hasty intersections that Councilwoman Wendy Greuel asked transportation officials last week to study how to accommodate them, according to the Daily News. .

The Coyle incident "has brought to bear an issue that is relatively common," Greuel told the newspaper. "We should look at those areas with predominantly seniors and accommodate their needs in intersections."

The danger to pedestrians -- particularly seniors -- is acute, according to police. Of the 94 pedestrians killed in the San Fernando Valley from 2003-05 while crossing the street, 31 were seniors, the Daily News reported.

Authorities say Coyle was not cited for not crossing the traffic light in time, but rather for entering a crosswalk when the don't walk sign was on.

Coyle maintains she did everything right except sprint across the street like a teenager.

"He should have given me a warning if anything or helped me across the street. I thought that the LAPD was trying to hunt down criminals, not old ladies and taking their Social Security," said Coyle said.

 

[koko nw]

It was called the Spanish Inquisition. The Catholics killed thousands...... I am surprised someone could forget that. All that killing in the name of god. ALL religions have their own factions...

regards,
AA

Thank You AAflyer, I'm well aware of the crusades. What has that got to do with my remarks?

 

[SWA/FO]

Don't be picking on the Catholics now!

 

[ivauir]

Hey! We agree on something (kind of). I'd flip the F out too if somebody in my family were harmed by a religious fanatic. Let's just say it was a Mormon fanatic. Should I then declare war on the state of Utah? Same line of logic here, people!

If there was widespread morman terrorists then yes we should go to where the terrorists are and put a hurtin on them. THe problem with your example is multifold;
First: you imply that we are talking about a few isolated incidents and some fringe lunatics, when in fact we are talking about recurring events going back more than 25 years and supported by some of the most esteemed leaders of this faith.
Second: you keep harping on the SH - 911 connection (or lack there of) when the reason for going to war was SH's refusal to comply with the terms of surrender from the first Gulf War. That's right the WMD. Now your going to freak out because we havn't found any, but the fact remains that Iraq was not in compliance with the inspection program. And now we can guarantee that SH has no WMD.
Third: When was the last mormon terrorist attack? Are mormon religious leaders calling for widespread violence?
Forth: your grasp of logic "people!" is remarkably weak.

So you're saying Saddam was a bad man who supported radical islam? Uhh, OK. I don't know anybody who has denied that, Einstein. He wouldn't have wanted take that too far though, because the radicals might eventually turn on his SECULAR regime. However, NOBODY HAS CONNECTED 9/11 WITH SADDAM HUSEIN! Remember, I've got the 9/11 commission on my side!

I don't care. We thought we could use diplomacy and economic pressure and warm fuzzy thoughts of love keep the world a safe place. We thought that if we maintained a peaceful policy and left the bad guys alone that they would leave us alone. I'm sorry I forget that you are a liberal. I shouldn't say "bad guys" should I? Maybe I should call then nice multiethnic people who want to kill me .... Anyhow, this is the thinking that brought us 9-11.

Understand this gloria steinem: pre 911 we let SH defy the UN, and maybe build an arsenal to use against us. Post 911 we told him "we're pretty pissed and a little scared, so why not prove you've dissarmed?' Nothing. We invade Afganistan and he's still defiant. I guess you think we should have just waited until he did attack us? Or maybe we should have waited until the French (who were skimming off of the oill for food program) were ready? Or maybe 12 years of inspections being thwarted isn't enough.

Go ahead and hate Bush, disagree with his politcs and policies, call him names, whatever. But taking SH out was one thing that he got right. And lay off of the "we shouldn't be there" BS. We should have gone the VERY FIRST TIME Iraq defied an inspection team - it is not Bush's fault we didn't.

 

[jayme]

do you people read any newspapers other than the USeless A Today? Do you wonder why Iran is making nukes? Has the president of Iran ever said that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth? I spend enough time in the sandbox every month to see how the people there treat everyone. They
hate the west. I go to these places regularly Saudi, UAE, Pakistan, Turkey, Bahrain. I can tell you that They are building dubai to be the next center of the world. Say what you want but those that hang out there know what is going on. The President of Iran is building nukes to wipe out the west and he knows that the UN and US will talk about what they should do all the while he is shipping bombs to their destinations on whatever means avail. I am going to predict that there will be a major attack on the west in the next 2-3 years and the deaths from it will make 9/11 look like a picnic. For those of you who think this will simmer down in a few years should pull your head out of the wal-mart bag and look around.

for those of you who have never been there, STFU.

Well, guy, I've never been there, but I'm going to express my opinion anyway. I hope that really pisses you off. You missed your calling - should have been in the KGB.

I thought one of the consequences of Bush's experiment in the middle east was to put "evil" regimes on notice. But you say "The President of Iran is building nukes to wipe out the west and he knows that the UN and US will talk about what they should do all the while he is shipping bombs to their destinations on whatever means avail." Now why would he think we wouldn't do something? We invaded Iraq on far weaker intelligence. I'll give you a clue: BECAUSE WE ARE INCAPABLE OF DOING ANYTHING BECAUSE WE ARE BOGGED DOWN IN IRAQ!

We agree on something: There will be a massive attack by Islamic extremists in the next few years. Most likely made worse by George's experiment in Iraq.

 

[northernflyer]

Da@#ed if we do, da@#ed if we don't. I would rather error on the side of doing too much, versus too little. I would rather think about how many attacks were stopped because we are on the offensive, than think about what more we should have done after another terrorist act occurred.

 

[JanaBJana]

Ditka,

I would concur. There's always someone protesting we are too aggressive. But when we back off and something happens, well.. then they say we werent aggressive enough!

* Close the Borders
* Deport the Illiegal ALIENS
* Fine Companies hiring Illegals.

* Secure our Nation