United Airlines and Continental Airlines Jumpseat Priority Agreement

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United Airlines and Continental Airlines Jumpseat Priority Agreement


The UALMEC has directed your Jumpseat Committee to seek an agreement with the Continental Jumpseat Committee whereby each carrier would grant a higher jumpseat boarding priority to each group of pilots. Your Jumpseat committee has obtained this agreement and will become effective on October 28,2009.

This agreement will be applicable to the mainline operation and will not include the respective express carrier code share flights. On Continental flights, United Pilots will be placed in priority immediately below the Continental pilots and above their express partners. For United flights, Continental pilots will be assigned a J3 classification per the OMC category guidelines in our FOM and will place them above all UAX pilots. Currently, FOM 12.20.11 assigns the J3 category to United interns and requires a cabin seat assignment as well as a meter of authorization. Continental pilots will not be required to have a cabin seat assignment and meter authorization for Jumpseat access. UA flight operations will be issuing similar information regarding the J3 classification in the front page news section of unimatic. The J3 category will be updated in the next FOM revision cycle. United FODM’s have been briefed on this category change too.

With all procedure changes, we caution you there may be some issues that may arise during the initial implementation. If a Continental pilot is encountering a problem obtaining a United Jumpseat, please contact the FODM for immediate assistance and your Jumpseat committee, when time permits. Should you encounter a problem on a Continental flight, please contact your Jumpseat committee via phone and file a JSAP report.


Should you have any additional questions regarding the agreement, please contact the MEC Jumpseat Committee.
 

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This could blow up on your faces when the United Express carriers enter into these same agreements to put eachother on before mainline pilots. . .
 

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A capacity purchase agreement means that United buys every seat on the associated express carrier. They have every right to determine the order in which empty seats are assigned to non-rev's as well as how the jumpseat is assigned.
 

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A capacity purchase agreement means that United buys every seat on the associated express carrier. They have every right to determine the order in which empty seats are assigned to non-rev's as well as how the jumpseat is assigned.
There you go..... Let's just keep Crapping on Captain's authority.
 

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I would say the company does have the right to prioritize the jumpseat. I don't think this takes away from Captains authority. He/She is still the last say on wether or not a jumpseater gets on he just doesn't get to choose the priority.
 

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A capacity purchase agreement means that United buys every seat on the associated express carrier. They have every right to determine the order in which empty seats are assigned to non-rev's as well as how the jumpseat is assigned.

Funny how they forget that part....but remember this is ALPA doing this not really UAL....I really don't think they care.
 

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For UAL guys...would that include the CAL scabs?

For CAL guys...would that include the UAL "Fleet Qualified" scabs?
 

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United does not have any authority to say who goes on a jumpseat of an express carrier. Just wait till Mesa and SKYW sign a similar agreement. This is not a good precedent, they should have included the express people of both sides on the priority
 

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How do you tell? I have never seen anyone with scab tattooed on their head.
 

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What sort of asinine reasoning went into this?
 

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How do you tell? I have never seen anyone with scab tattooed on their head.
When you check credentials ask for ID, license, medical and Union card. Scabs don't have one.
 

145BOSS

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Continental scabs have union cards. ALPA in an effort to increase revenue turned a blind eye to any past line crossers and Knighted them "beneficial' to the cause...

Try using that Captain's Authority the next time you are flying a Sports or Military charter. You try to put a jumpseater in your jumpseat and see how that goes over. It doesn't matter whether you fly for a regional, national or major. The person who payed for the charter has bought every seat and has the right to determine how the seats in the aircraft are occupied. During scheduled operations the major carrier has purchased every seat and thus can determine how they are loaded. If the contracted carrier is positioning aircraft, flying at will or even flying maintenance test flights then they can determine how the seats are occupied because they are paying for the flights themselves.
 

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During scheduled operations the major carrier has purchased every seat and thus can determine how they are loaded.
Except that the lowly regional Captain has the final say on who rides on his jumpseat.

Maybe UAL is trying to generate revenue form employees commuting by having them non-rev instead of jumpseat...of course the people behind this probably don't commute.

Or maybe (and the most likely cause) is that it is that time of the month for the new UAL Chairwoman.
 

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Except that the lowly regional Captain has the final say on who rides on his jumpseat.

Maybe UAL is trying to generate revenue form employees commuting by having them non-rev instead of jumpseat...of course the people behind this probably don't commute.

Or maybe (and the most likely cause) is that it is that time of the month for the new UAL Chairwoman.
She's not in office yet. But come Jan 01, watch out!

If the lowly Captain feels that a mainline pilot is riding the jumpseat, while his buds sit at the gate, will cause a distraction thus compromising safety, then by all means, deny! Especially when its that time-o-the-month for ya.
 

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What's really revealing about this is how quickly it came out. UAL released this the day of the announcement of CAL joining the Star Alliance and it was quickly followed by an UAL MEC release. The CAL MEC is still trying to figure out how to get a first class rest seat for international flights they gave away on C02. CAL pilots are gonna be crushed in the merger.
 

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You can expect regional caps to return the favor and allow other express pilots on their jumpseat with higher priority even if they show up at the gate 10 minutes prior with a UAL or CAL guy there first.

This is probably not going to turn out good at all.
 
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