avrodriver
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Looking at all the Big Boys as you call them, seem the rates are very similar. Where are you seeing United's rates so far beneath the others? Not seeing that info.
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Looking at all the Big Boys as you call them, seem the rates are very similar. Where are you seeing United's rates so far beneath the others? Not seeing that info.
I see you are very astute... . If you look at Bad Andy's profile, you'll see that he's on mil leave from UAL. What that means is he's accruing retirement (at about 1K a month), longevity and seniority at UAL without flying a single hour. As a matter of fact, he'll be around $100 (about $117 with retirement benefits) an hour (or higher) to be an FO by the time he goes back. He bypassed recall and when he was finally forced to take a recall, he said "put me on the list, I'll let you know when I'll come back". Now whose the ho son?
Maybe you should check again.
401K: yes401k Matching: noneA/B Fund: none/9% B-planOther: Profit sharing, C-Fund: 6%
What is it any of your business if a person goes to UAL anyway???? Stay where you are at and call it done.
Umm don't just blame ex Indy guys, there are also guys from other legacy's that quit to go to virgin. Some of us ex Indy guys left the airline industry to work else where because of the sorry pay. I guess you're also a whore for going back to work for a company that pays those rates. Don't be saying negative things about other pilots when you're obviously willing to do the same things. If you truly believe what you're saying you would have told united where to go when you got the recall notice.
T-Bags has already pointed out my current status. I accepted recall to United in Jan 2007. I will return to Yo-nited in fall 2009. For about 9 months, until I can reset my man day clock and return to the AF Reserves and my staff puke job for another 3 1/4 years. I really won't be back to United until 2014, if ever. If something else comes up, I will have no problem walking away from this business forever.
I find the current payscales disgusting across the board - United's payscale included - and companies such VA and Skybus will put further pressure on ALL airlines' pilot wages.
As for my Indy comments, you and I both know that the core of the pilots at both VA and Skybus are Indy grads. Not all Indy grads fill the stereotype, but that company sure produced more than it's fair share of whores. And after the crap your former company pulled on Yo-nited back when you were ACA and Yo-nited was on it's knees, it was schadenfreude to watch Indy implode. That, and I made a decent chunk of change shorting the crap out of Indy's stock. Talk about a stupid business model - start a low fare carrier with high cost aircraft (RJs). I looked at the first investors' brief from your company and started ROTFLMAO.
I used to visit your old ACA lounge and chuckled at the estrogenic comments from your fellow employees complaining on how mean the mainline people were to you poor ACAites. Having been around Yo-nited for a while, let me unequivically state that EVERYONE got treated poorly by a large minority of United employees. There was nothing personal directed at ACAites. I remember deadheading when we were authorized first if there were seats available - the gate agent said that it checked in full. He lied - an offline jumpseater took the seat in first. That was business as usual at Yo-nited.