UAL new A/C order by the end of August

[Superpilot92]

says who?? It will be advertised to airlines and sold as an RJ...they (airline mgt) will love the idea since it will keep labor costs down. How many airline pilot contracts have open loop holes that don't protect these from being outsourced.

Honestly, most of the majors have decent enough scope to protect against these going to a regional. The loopholes have been turned into gaping holes with the 70 seaters but thats typically where it has been stopped. The holes are slowly retracting due to both the pilots opening their eyes and the economics of the "RJ" arent there anymore.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

There are airlines that are very very close to signing MOU's for this jet. It will fly.

 

[CrownandCoke]

There is part of your problem! You mainline guys think if it ain't made by Boeing or Airbus it must be an RJ. Draconian thinking and failure to adapt is why you are called a legacy. I would make sure this "RJ" is flown by UAL list and not your feed this time around.

you watch. Management will say "if it's made by Embraer or Bombardier, it's a regional jet."

Bombardier will promptly produce the CRJ 8,000,000,000 which will have 42,000 seats. And it will be flown at regional rates.

 

[FlyinPiker]

Has the C series even flown yet? That has to be at least 5 years or more down the road.

They are shooting for 2013.

Hope they have better luck than Boeing & Airbus did.

Looks like an awesome piece of equipment.

 

[Mr.B]

I WISH the UAL guys had the opportunity to "take back" the RJ flying. UAL pilots fly UAL customers.

Gup

That my friend could get you a free pint in my local.

Cheers.

 

[Mr.B]

This has as much of a chance at coming to fruition as Pocohole pilot clearing up her feminine infection problem.

Yuck.

 

[Remington]

Call the repo man now!

 

[73belair]

I hope it has some engines that allow it to perform...that CRJ 900 like the A321 is a flying horseturd!!

Thats the old one. The "nextgen" one has some pretty good performance.
And if you actually look at the C series it is a pretty slick design. Uses some really fuel efficient engines.

 

[WSurf]

Bombardier C-Series aircraft are not "RJs." They are 110-130 seat mainline aircraft with a 3x2 configuration.

Flown at RJ rates... So their RJ's..

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Flown at RJ rates... So their RJ's..

No payrates have been negotiated for them yet to my knowledge... therefore "your" jumping the gun.

 

[funnyman12]

Last time I checked scope was based on seats....the C-Series has 100-145 seats (depending on configuration). No U.S. airline will fly them at 100 seats. We fly a/c at max capacity, so prolly 115-140 seats is more realistic depending on the model. If anyones scope gives up scope allowing 100+ seats, you as an airline, deserve to lose your job. Where will it stop.....jeepers creepers, I would have hoped it would stop at 50 seats...then there was 70...then 76...then 86.....lets stop it!!! the C series will be a great MAINLINE aircraft!!!!! Period..the end!

 

[Fly2AK]

http://www.bombardier.com/en/aerospace/products/commercial-aircraft/cseries?docID=0901260d800091e6

Bobbardiers link for those interested, the earlier link on this thread was a good one as well. I've said all along that if Bombardier or Embrarer make a 500 passenger airplane that management will try to say it's a regional, and some regional pilot out there will fly it for 20 dollars an hour and say "who cares what I make look what I get to fly" the mainline guys have to step up and strengthen scope and stop the spread of the regional pilot and the regional guy needs to stand beside the mainline guy and look forward to some sort of career advancement. Lets face the regionals are not where anyone wants to stay for a career. Some have settle for their regional career and I was there at the regional making 90,000 a year but I sucked it up left for mainline, took the intitial pay cuy and life was much better then my days at the regional. I am furloughed now but flying at a pretty good gig. I would never have been offered this job had I not gone to a mainline operation. Now I am making $140,000 as a FO and life isn't all that bad right now. I hope all mainline pilots will stop bickering and actually try to stick together and recover our careers, this airplane may be made by a RJ company but it is far from it. I would like to return to my mainline employer but I want to see some improvements in the US industry before I return home. Until then I will keep flying in the desert and stashing money away and see what happens.

 

[FlyMeSWA]

says who?? It will be advertised to airlines and sold as an RJ...they (airline mgt) will love the idea since it will keep labor costs down. How many airline pilot contracts have open loop holes that don't protect these from being outsourced.

Just semantics, mainline pilots aren't going to accept that aircraft flown at the rates its labeled for.

You can call your 747 an a RJ too if you're paid regional rates. The term "Regional Jet" is like a kid calling any kind of soda a "coke".

 

[10nCLR]

you watch. Management will say "if it's made by Embraer or Bombardier, it's a regional jet."

Bombardier will promptly produce the CRJ 8,000,000,000 which will have 42,000 seats. And it will be flown at regional rates.

WOW!!! Wouldn't that require 840 FAs? Damn. One FA/night/year for both pilots and still leaving behind 110 for backup.

 

[contrail67]

OH SNAP

pretty sad-- our 737's were worth on avg about 2 million per plane

With new aircraft like the C series....at a reasonable price...it probably drives the price of an old 737 down. Why would you want to have an aircraft that seats the same and uses 25% more fuel? We just need a cash for clunkers program at the airlines.

I am more interested in where this whole thread started. The last "knowledge" I saw about United on here was that they were going right to chapter 7....just goes to show the ignorance.