UAL MEC standing tough for tighter Scope---listen up United Express people...

[Oakum_Boy]

Maybe you'll keel over from an infarct from all this easy flying

 

[AWACoff]

Yeah, because it's only been done by thousands of pilots before

If flying is too tough for you, maybe you need to take up a desk job

I wasn't the one complaining about how tough this job is, 727gm was. Go ahead and forward your comment to him.

 

[P38JLightning]

I didn't read the whole thread, but my guess is that if United mainline pilots demand RJ flying, and they get rights to RJ flying, things won't change much, except fee for departure. Skywest is already code sharing with Air Tran, flying as Skywest Airlines. My guess is that United will never see RJ's, but if they negotiated away other things to get RJ rights, airlines like Skywest will continue to do the flying under their own brand through code shares. There is no scope for stuff like that, that's a management decision.

Actually there IS scope for stuff like that. Manegement wants a code share, they usually have to come crawling to the mainline pilot group, pay out their case and beg for it. Of course most have been rubber stamped in the past, and in fact some are actually good deals for the airline (and pilot group) in question. Signing a (properly restricted) code share with a foreign airline to expand your network to hundreds of new markets, the vast majority of which you were never going to fly to, ever, yourself actually makes sense for everyone. But most mainline pilot contracts give enormous discretion and veto rights to code sharing proposals already. Heck that's why Jerry, JO and the Reverend aren't doing the 777/747 flying for mainlines today as "just a code share".

 

[Hypoxik]

also posted on the majors forum thread of this.

I've been sitting on the sidelines for this so far, but i'm gonna chime in now that i've seen alot of mainline guys who've come from us lowly regional jet operators clearly forgetting where they came from. You guys gave us these jets. We didn't undercut any of you to get them. We were on your list via the flow through.

Since i work for express jet, plz allow me to speak as an express jet pilot. Cal wholly-owned us, everything from seniority numbers, ccs access, coair, uniforms, training etc was done to their standards and, with few exceptions, their employees. The iah chief pilot for us was a bloody cal flow up with recall rights till 2k8.

There was a flow-up/flow-down agreement in place that worked until you guys pussied up and wouldn't renew it after we voted in alpa over that faggot ass iacp scab factory of a union and got a contract better, much better, than yours (see contract 04 work rules). A second year fo at xjt made more per hr than a first yr cal fo on the 757. You guys spun us off to pay for your bankruptcy, then your executives have driven us almost into the dirt. Be it mr peanut head kellner or that blue blood prick from the ivy leagues, smisek. We didn't do a thing to ya'll but provide extremely good feed for your hubs. Then you had to bring in chataqua and then give colgan 80000 seat turboprops....

Anyway, if you want the flying we do back, fine, take it with my blessing, but don't sit their on your righteous boeing cloud and reign down judgements on us, more than 40 percent of the cal list came from express. We wanted to be one list but you guys thought you were too good to fly something made in brazil. That's fine too, but don't act like the reason you're still operating under concessionary contracts since 02 is because of us. If you need a person to blame, you need only look in a mirror...or at your mec.

As for united being the pinnacle of experience and professionalism...ok, how many 300 hr chicks and minorities did ya'll hire in the 97-2000 era? Yeah, let's not forget about them or the siu interns, etc who didn't even have an atp you picked up. Admittedly they are likely furloughed now, but that notwithstanding, your poo doesn't exactly smell like roses, bro.

boom!

 

[Speedtape]

And Wendy had how much time when she was hired? 250 hours, maybe?

 

[Jeepman]

Wow, I am reminded why I don't post here anymore.

You guys do realize there is porn on the internet right? I wonder if there is a group of "professionals" that go after each other as much as they do here. Wait thats right....lawyers!!!