100/hour/5y
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We have been watching the implementation, or lack thereof, of our contract. I have noted a few things that scare the hell out of me when I look at the last eight years I have at this place.
Are there only a few of us on this forum who realize what is happening here?.......the precedent that is being set by our company and ALLOWED by our Union?
1. On March 1st (three days ago), Jayson Baron sent out a blast mail which in part stated: "In addition, unless all non-rest seats on the aircraft are full, the adjacent seat will also be blocked. This means the entire aircraft must be full, not just Business First, before this additional seat is assigned to a non-revenue or revenue passenger. Where the problem may come in is that management, despite knowing they would be bound by this provision since mid-December, chose not to block the seats until February 27th. This will probably lead to large scale reseating and the potential for numerous errors and conflict."
The very next day, captain Bowers, the EWR CP put out a blast mail that stated that Jayson's ML was not a fact and "This is not the company’s opinion of this section of the contract." This was written in bold. Captain Bowers also stated "I wanted all of you to know what management’s opinion of this section is and what I expect each of you to do if faced with this situation. I do not want crews taking delays for contractual disputes." That was two days ago.
Today, after a full day when our FTFPL folks should have been in the office, there is still no Union Blastmail addressing this confrontational issue......nothing. Our pilots were told by Jayson to:
"If an order is issued and the assignment can be completed safely, then fly it and grieve it upon return to base. When an “order to fly” is issued there is a documented paper trail and the management pilot will be held accountable. To date, management pilots have been hesitant to issue these orders."
The fact is that our management has proven since Jayson's blast mail that they are MORE than willing to issue these "orders".....in fact.....and this is the scarey thing, it seems that our company can issue these OTF things at their whim on anything they want to......without any type of fight from our Union......did anybody else anticipate SOMETHING from our Union today (or this past weekend?).......is nobody else thinking about this? Sure, we know that the company cannot issue an OTF on a safety item but name ONE other thing contained within our contract that they could not issue an "order to fly" to get their way. Today it is the rest seat, tomorrow it will be crew meals the next day it will be almost anything else in our contract that the company does not want to comply with. How about if there are NO F/C rest seats on your aircraft because a coach passenger was upgraded? Before, we would simply state "we are not moving the aircraft until the '02 contract is complied with".....I have done this a couple of times myself and miraculously, the required rest seat appeared. TODAY......I would be issued an OTF over ACARS and I would have to fly the flight and then file a grievance on my own time when I got back.......that is what Jayson said to do: "If an order is issued and the assignment can be completed safely, then fly it and grieve it upon return to base." Really? Is this how our Union defends the contract they sold to us?
This is insane!
We not only have a substandard contract in many ways, but, our Union has given the company the key to violate it at any time......a pilot will receive an OTF and then AFTER the trip, on his OWN damned time.....he can grieve it. This precedent will inundate the Union with hundreds of grievances which will be impossible to address but.....if you are lucky enough to have your grievance float to the top at some point, you GET to commute to IAH on your day off and at your own expense to address your grievance.
Eventually, THIS pilot group will give up, quit filing grievances and yes, don't be surprised if you see the OTF on your Dispatch Release once this pilot group has been worn down (which will take about three days).......eventually, JP and pals will hold a rally in protest or something.
I will say it......there is no doubt in my mind that JP and his pals are in cahoots with the company on every aspect of this contract. Their reward is NOT to go to management......their reward is to stay right where they are in their plush Union jobs with the eloquent QOL they live. They are happy as peach pie.....many of them are not even qualified to fly anymore. The fact that there was nothing forthcoming from our Union today addressing the OTF situation is unconscionable......if the OTF is allowed to continue, we might as well throw away our substandard contract folks......it is worthless.
Are there only a few of us on this forum who realize what is happening here?.......the precedent that is being set by our company and ALLOWED by our Union?
1. On March 1st (three days ago), Jayson Baron sent out a blast mail which in part stated: "In addition, unless all non-rest seats on the aircraft are full, the adjacent seat will also be blocked. This means the entire aircraft must be full, not just Business First, before this additional seat is assigned to a non-revenue or revenue passenger. Where the problem may come in is that management, despite knowing they would be bound by this provision since mid-December, chose not to block the seats until February 27th. This will probably lead to large scale reseating and the potential for numerous errors and conflict."
The very next day, captain Bowers, the EWR CP put out a blast mail that stated that Jayson's ML was not a fact and "This is not the company’s opinion of this section of the contract." This was written in bold. Captain Bowers also stated "I wanted all of you to know what management’s opinion of this section is and what I expect each of you to do if faced with this situation. I do not want crews taking delays for contractual disputes." That was two days ago.
Today, after a full day when our FTFPL folks should have been in the office, there is still no Union Blastmail addressing this confrontational issue......nothing. Our pilots were told by Jayson to:
"If an order is issued and the assignment can be completed safely, then fly it and grieve it upon return to base. When an “order to fly” is issued there is a documented paper trail and the management pilot will be held accountable. To date, management pilots have been hesitant to issue these orders."
The fact is that our management has proven since Jayson's blast mail that they are MORE than willing to issue these "orders".....in fact.....and this is the scarey thing, it seems that our company can issue these OTF things at their whim on anything they want to......without any type of fight from our Union......did anybody else anticipate SOMETHING from our Union today (or this past weekend?).......is nobody else thinking about this? Sure, we know that the company cannot issue an OTF on a safety item but name ONE other thing contained within our contract that they could not issue an "order to fly" to get their way. Today it is the rest seat, tomorrow it will be crew meals the next day it will be almost anything else in our contract that the company does not want to comply with. How about if there are NO F/C rest seats on your aircraft because a coach passenger was upgraded? Before, we would simply state "we are not moving the aircraft until the '02 contract is complied with".....I have done this a couple of times myself and miraculously, the required rest seat appeared. TODAY......I would be issued an OTF over ACARS and I would have to fly the flight and then file a grievance on my own time when I got back.......that is what Jayson said to do: "If an order is issued and the assignment can be completed safely, then fly it and grieve it upon return to base." Really? Is this how our Union defends the contract they sold to us?
This is insane!
We not only have a substandard contract in many ways, but, our Union has given the company the key to violate it at any time......a pilot will receive an OTF and then AFTER the trip, on his OWN damned time.....he can grieve it. This precedent will inundate the Union with hundreds of grievances which will be impossible to address but.....if you are lucky enough to have your grievance float to the top at some point, you GET to commute to IAH on your day off and at your own expense to address your grievance.
Eventually, THIS pilot group will give up, quit filing grievances and yes, don't be surprised if you see the OTF on your Dispatch Release once this pilot group has been worn down (which will take about three days).......eventually, JP and pals will hold a rally in protest or something.
I will say it......there is no doubt in my mind that JP and his pals are in cahoots with the company on every aspect of this contract. Their reward is NOT to go to management......their reward is to stay right where they are in their plush Union jobs with the eloquent QOL they live. They are happy as peach pie.....many of them are not even qualified to fly anymore. The fact that there was nothing forthcoming from our Union today addressing the OTF situation is unconscionable......if the OTF is allowed to continue, we might as well throw away our substandard contract folks......it is worthless.