UAL 175's not coming to XJET

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

Well said.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Strong rumor these might be going to Commutair...

 

[Nevets]

But but but nevets said......

Glad to know you are thinking of me. Anyway, the only thing I said about these aircraft was that my hope is that Mesa gets them.

Nevets hasnt come on here yet to tell everyone how XJT had first refusal rights, and that obviously XJT refused?

First right of refusal to replace XJT 145s, not the first right of refusal for any bid. Are you guys really that dense?

When it comes down to it does "SkyWest Inc." have first right of refusal.. Or "XJT"?....

Well, we all know who has the purse strings. But they would be required to go to LXJT.

 

[amcnd]

Did'nt they say a few years back "no growth until a joint contract"......

 

[777forever]

Just wait until the JCBA "forces" you to buy a $700 Ipad. The $400 ones?
Not sure there were ever any of those

You must not keep up with Tech. iPad 2s are under $300. Refurbished iPad 3rd generation starts at $300, brand new iPad Mini starts at $329, brand new iPad 4th Gen starts at $500, all with 16GB, which is way more than enough space to download the Jepp Charts.

$700 iPads are the brand new 4th Gen iPad with 64GBs of storage with 3G data and GPS receiver. There is zero chance the company will require this iPad.

 

[enuffalready]

First right of refusal to replace XJT 145s, not the first right of refusal for any bid. Are you guys really that dense?
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so what exactly do you claim you have first right of refusal of? that if your 145's go away you get new aircraft? how is that different from United giving 30 170's to Mesa, then announcing a month/year later that 40 XJT 145's are being parked? Or are you just saying that IF United wanted to park 40 145's ( early) they would have to 'offer' XJT new aircraft in some 2/1 3/1 ratio type deal

 

[ASApuppy]

Me thinks that these aircraft will go elsewhere. Then me thinks that ERJ's will get parked when their respective contracts are up for renewal. Our management is stuck in the scare into concessions mindset.

The only thing I haven't completely figured out is why our hyper-arrogant, know-it-all, ultra-secretive management has recently launched all this all-employee focus groups and call-ins. Have they finally realized that they are nothing more than a monkey fornicating a football, or is it just the next "lets make our employees think we care" ploy.

Sorry, I'd love to help, but I'm too busy writing up our broken airplanes and have no time at home since I'm never there because I'm scheduled for 12 days out of 14.

I got here right after the George and John days, so I don't have a reference. But, the days of Skip were far better for overall moral than what we have now. I have always thought that management peps that came in after DFW closed, and the unrelated ultralight accident, were to blame for all the negative changes. Now, I think the nose dive is too steep for St George to pull out of. So, for you management wanks that are reading this and truly want to improve this place, better start treating us with some respect and spend some money to make this place better. The more you push us into a box, the more we will push back. It's that simple. The payback will be returned, I promise that.

 

[XPOO]

so what exactly do you claim you have first right of refusal of? that if your 145's go away you get new aircraft? how is that different from United giving 30 170's to Mesa, then announcing a month/year later that 40 XJT 145's are being parked? Or are you just saying that IF United wanted to park 40 145's ( early) they would have to 'offer' XJT new aircraft in some 2/1 3/1 ratio type deal

Sheesh, you can't throw logic at Nevets like that.

 

[wms]

Unless SKWY,Inc is willing to invest in the E175 those planes will go elsewhere. Inc is so busy stepping over dollars to save dimes that they are missing out on opportunities, and losing investor confidence. Part of it has to do with penny-pinching and the other part has to do with putting contract leverage before good business.


JA knew how to invest good money wisely, the only thing current mgmt knows how to do is cut corners and send out fluffy emails.

 

[sniper]

Strong rumor these might be going to Commutair...

It is going to be Mesa

 

[Mercyful Fate]

These aircraft are going to Republic....

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

Nope. Ual isn't giving any more BIZ to help compete with them in DEN..

 

[Nevets]

so what exactly do you claim you have first right of refusal of? that if your 145's go away you get new aircraft? how is that different from United giving 30 170's to Mesa, then announcing a month/year later that 40 XJT 145's are being parked? Or are you just saying that IF United wanted to park 40 145's ( early) they would have to 'offer' XJT new aircraft in some 2/1 3/1 ratio type deal

The CAL CPA that Skywest negotiated when they bought XJT says that if CAL wants to replace XJT's 145s, they have to give XJT the first right of refusal for them on 75 aircraft. They also have a clause for 15 additional growth aircraft. Theoretically, they call park ALL 145s and replace them with 90 larger RJs. Although, I would guess that they keep the 104 XRs. This is not a guarantee though. Maybe they did get the first right of refusal on these first 30 175s and turned down the bid?

By the way, they wouldn't be parking 145s early. The leases already started expiring on them and they extended the leases on about a dozen through the end of the summer.

Sheesh, you can't throw logic at Nevets like that.

Logic? You are the one who though that just because these aircraft are not going to XJT that the first right of refusal in the CAL CPA is null and void. Where is your logic in that?

 

[N4niner206]

I ride Mesa jump seats all the time and yes, they have the iPad. However, THEY have to buy the iPad AND the mount!! Screw that! The company needs to provide the equipment! You aren't expected to bring your own FMS to work, so why should you have to buy a $400 iPad??

Im not disagreeing, but let's be reasonable.

1) Ipads at Mesa are OPTIONAL. Nobody is forced to do it and paper jepps are still permitted for those who do not have/want the ipad.

2) Did your company pay for your chart case? That's a better comparison than the FMS. Its not like the company is making the pilots pay for the Jepp subscriptio

3) Basically the company is providing the pilots with a paper jepp subscription and an electronic subscription for those who find it worth the cost of the ipad to lighten their load and not have to do jepp revisions.

Essentially most airlines provide a pair of DC (or similar) headsets on the aircraft. Do you dog on guys who decided to buy an $800 pair of Bose? ITS THE EXACT SAME THING!!

 

[No Delay]

If given the option, I would use the ipad in second!