UA furlough numbers released

[Superpilot92]

Make sure and thank alpa national for passing the "age 65" rule. At least the senior folks got theirs!

:uzi:AGE 65 :smash:

 

[BigMotorToter]

I wonder if there will be any "presents" left in the old gummer's flight kits for hanging around during a furlough. If it was me...it would be more than tempting to take a big ol' dump in one on the way out.

I've heard of a few stories at AA. I've "heard" that a few of the gummers received ice picks in their mail box. Whatever that means.

Also flight bags being thrown in the dumpster, eggs cracked into them (then sat for a few days).

Good times.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Make sure and thank alpa national for passing the "age 65" rule. At least the senior folks got theirs!

More of the blame should go to the company for not having a strategic, competitive plan for the future coming out of BK.

You can't run a successful company when your only plan is....sell...or merge...

A successful operating plan would negate any "age 65" effects.

 

[skid]

Make sure and thank alpa national for passing the "age 65" rule. At least the senior folks got theirs!

This is the second forum in as many minutes that you have said that. I totally agree that the 65 thing sucks but that is old business. I am just looking to find a way to keep my job over the next 6-12 months because of all of this furloughing crap.

Looks like my second stint in the food stamp line in the last year and a half is just around the corner.

I LOVE AVIATION!!!uke:

 

[BigRed1]

If they do get to 1450 total...what would be the range for DOH on the street?

Approximately March, 1999, if they go the full 1,450. Our LAX Flight Office apparently said there are about 300 requests for LOAs from more senior pilots. That, along with medical outs, early retirements (hey, we had 2 last month!) and other man power positives that UAL ALPA is working on to help mitigate furloughs, this could slide another few hundred numbers in the pilot's favor putting the junior guy in the vicinity of late 1999.

This is all an educated guess however, based on my own seniority of September, 1998 and the known number of pilots below me (1,099 active and 1,729 total.) Wow, 150 pilots left below me after the furlough with almost 10 years seniority. Who woulda thunk it.

BigRed1

 

[MCDU]

Welcome to USAIR

 

[tblosser]

Drilling for new oil won't produce anything for 10 years either.

That is what they said 10 years ago.

 

[jmreii]

Wow - that's a big number. Not too surprising though. If oil continues to climb I would expect many more to be furloughed at all legacies. It's time to DRILL FOR MORE OIL off our own coasts... Solar won't cut it for at least another 10 years...

Good luck to those impacted.

It's time to conserve and stop being wasteful

 

[General Lee]

It's time to conserve and stop being wasteful

We have 800 BILLION barrels of oil in SHALE in Montana waiting to be turned into oil. We import 4 billion barrels a year from abroad. That means we have 200 years worth of oil in Montana alone, and the governor of that state said it would cost $50 a barrel to make it into gas. Sounds like a good alternative, except to current oil companies.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[eaglesview]

I hope the gummers really enjoy going to work. They better as alot of the young folks will have to leave.

I find it absurd and almost unbelieveable that people aged 60 get to stay while those with a mortgage and two kids are given a pinkslip and a "good-luck sport" as they wonder where the next paycheck will come from.

How did it come to this??


Best of luck to all those who are going to be affected by this!!


Sincerely,

dane

Wow I didn't know mortgages, college tuition and other expenses stopped at 60. I can't wait, only 14 years to go.

 

[On Your Six]

It's time to conserve and stop being wasteful

Let me guess, you wear rainbow clothes and smoke a lot of weed too. Conservation doesn't work well when we are going to have so many vehicles, airplanes, etc. using gasoline for the foreseeable future. Sure, let's build an electric car. That won't help the thousands of airplanes flying around the US currently using gasoline. We should work on both fronts - reducing our dependence on foreign oil (bloodsuckers) and creating new technologies further reducing that dependence. We need to work both concurrently and not just hope we can build hybrids of the sky in the next year - that won't happen. You need to live in the here and now - not in IDEAL WORLD. If we have the untapped resources, we should start to use them. Putting unnecessary constraints on our economy won't help us achieve GDP growth. Even if new sources of oil are a few years off (new oil fields), the promise of more oil could reduce some of the pricing pressure. It's better than standing still.

Rant over. Good luck to all the UAL guys out there.

 

[GuppyWN]

I hope they back off trying to kill you guys 90+ hours a month and allow a few more of your brothers to keep a job. Tilton should be shot on sight!

Good luck guys,
Gup

 

[brownie]

:uzi:AGE 65 :smash:

Wait until mccain gets in the office, The latest out of apaad is they have mccain onboard to bring back the geezers that already retired back on property with thier old seniority #'s (re writing the law). Of course that's not even taken his stance on open skies and how he thinks it's good for competition.

 

[eaglesview]

I hope they back off trying to kill you guys 90+ hours a month and allow a few more of your brothers to keep a job. Tilton should be shot on sight!

Good luck guys,
Gup

You are right on the money there. Hopefully that is being worked out as we speak..or I should say type. Just out of curiosity, I know you guys are always touted as being very productive, what is a southwest average month.

 

[GuppyWN]

I think the system wide average including reserves is about 73 hours.

I just don't see how you guys are holding up. I could do 95 hours for one month, maybe two but then I'd be too tired to care and the sick calls would go through the roof. Or worse, a mistake. That'd be worth about $2 billion.

Keep a brother alive!
Gup