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Will be interesting to see what happens, since the Master D0uche Bill Baer stated that it is (almost) impossible to settle.
 
Baer has some outs though. He can blame the government shutdown and say they didn't have enough time to prepare. At least he'll get some concessions instead of losing the trial and getting nothing.
 
Dornier 335 said:
Rumor has it DoJ isn't too happy having Doug as the supreme commander of a combined US/AA.
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So now the government can say who can and can't run businesses?
 
Shirley, you can't be serious ERFly?

Anyone paying even a little attention has seen that play from the Owebamao administration.

Take a look at who is on the board at GM (Government Motors) 'frinstance.

Atlas Shrugged. First a book, then a movie, and now it is reality.
 
dollacrackho said:
Sounds like Florida is about to drop their lawsuit. How much longer can Baer continue this sh! Tshow???
#obamacare#baerrapesgoats
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Someone must have told her what this lawsuit was finally about.

They don't call her Attorney general barbie for nothing.
 
yes

yes I would!
 
U.S. antitrust authorities want to see a broad package of divestitures from AMR Corp. AAMRQ +7.48% and US Airways Group Inc. LCC +2.14% as part of any deal to settle the government's challenge to their merger plan, people familiar with the matter said.

The people said talks are under way between the two sides three weeks before a trial of the antitrust challenge is set to open in Washington.

The Justice Department's antitrust suit, which sought to block the merger of AMR's American Airlines and US Airways, argued that the deal would harm consumers by reducing air service and increase fares. It listed more than 1,000 routes on which regulators believed competition would suffer.

The opening of settlement talks suggests that the government isn't taking an absolute stand against the deal, and that a trial isn't a certainty. At the same time, however, the airlines might resist the broad concessions that the government is seeking.

A person familiar with the Justice Department's thinking said department lawyers insist that any settlement should include divestitures at key airports throughout the U.S. The department believes that the two airlines would need to divest assets at those airports to ensure that their merger wouldn't limit consumer choices on nonstop and connecting flights or harm consumers by raising fares, this person said.

The airlines are prepared to give up slots at Reagan National Airport outside Washington, where US Airways is already the dominant carrier, and make some divestments at other U.S. airports, two people familiar with the negotiations said last week. A person familiar with the process said Sunday that the airlines' settlement proposal would include divestments at other U.S. airports besides Reagan National.

Some of the busiest U.S. airports have limited room for competitors to expand, either because takeoff and landing slots are limited or because there aren't enough gates. LaGuardia and John F. Kennedy International airports in New York are among those with limited slots, while airports in Chicago and Los Angeles have limited gate space.

Another asset in limited supply is permission to fly to some international destinations. US Airways recently obtained rights to offer service to S?o Paulo, Brazil.

If combined at their current size, AMR and US Airways would vault past United Continental Holdings Inc. UAL +4.68% and Delta Air Lines Inc. DAL +1.21% as the largest carrier in the world by traffic. AMR and US Airways say the merger would offer fliers more choice and a bigger route network.

The Justice Department's suit challenging the merger warned against overconcentration in the U.S. air-travel market if the deal went ahead as planned, because it would leave the U.S. with just four airlines controlling more than 80% of the domestic market.

Both sides have said they are prepared to go to trial, which is scheduled to begin Nov. 25.
 
What does the government want? All of Americans dc slots and what else? Don't tell me they need anything given up in ny. Why so delta can have more of a stranglehold on lga and jfk? What other cities are we talking about here?
 
This is irritating, to say the least. Divest slots in DCA?????? Has anyone realized that you will soon be able to take the DC Metro Silver Line to IAD? Who is going to grab up more LGA slots- DAL pretty much owns the place already. I have to give it to the DOJ- they've certainly done a fantastic job of manipulating the facts to suit their argument. They remind me of a skeezy used car salesman in a cheap suit.
 
Eff em. It's almost time for the trial anyways. Here's a few token slots for ya at Reagan and a few slots at wherever. Oh no not good enough Mr Baer well shove it up your greasy palmed backroom dealing a $$.
 
dollacrackho said:
What does the government want? All of Americans dc slots and what else? Don't tell me they need anything given up in ny. Why so delta can have more of a stranglehold on lga and jfk? What other cities are we talking about here?
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US gave the store away with the LGA-DCA slot swap with DL. 132 LGA slots for 42 DCA slots, whats wrong with this deal?
I want this to go to trial, too many mergers in the last few years and the DOJ finally has awakened. AA can compete just fine, its US that needs this merger as it brings very little to the table compared with AA.
 
dollacrackho said:
What does the government want? All of Americans dc slots and what else? Don't tell me they need anything given up in ny. Why so delta can have more of a stranglehold on lga and jfk? What other cities are we talking about here?
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USAIRWAYS to SELL PHX Training Center and PHX gates to Allegiant Airlines

Good luck West
 
JumpersAway said:
This is irritating, to say the least. Divest slots in DCA?????? Has anyone realized that you will soon be able to take the DC Metro Silver Line to IAD? Who is going to grab up more LGA slots- DAL pretty much owns the place already. I have to give it to the DOJ- they've certainly done a fantastic job of manipulating the facts to suit their argument. They remind me of a skeezy used car salesman in a cheap suit.
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Senators and congressmen riding subways, surely you jest. These silver spooned raised privileged characters will not hear of it as they will fight for N/S service to their home cities, no matter how small they are and it makes no difference that those slots could move more people on larger planes than the 50 seater's that clog up the air lanes.
DOJ is right on this one.
 
cheapgreek said:
US gave the store away with the LGA-DCA slot swap with DL. 132 LGA slots for 42 DCA slots, whats wrong with this deal?
I want this to go to trial, too many mergers in the last few years and the DOJ finally has awakened. AA can compete just fine, its US that needs this merger as it brings very little to the table compared with AA.
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You know Horton's stand-alone plan was furloughs and shrinkage, right?
 
cheapgreek said:
Senators and congressmen riding subways, surely you jest. These silver spooned raised privileged characters will not hear of it as they will fight for N/S service to their home cities, no matter how small they are and it makes no difference that those slots could move more people on larger planes than the 50 seater's that clog up the air lanes.
DOJ is right on this one.
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Lemme guess. Eagle guy?
 
cheapgreek said:
US gave the store away with the LGA-DCA slot swap with DL. 132 LGA slots for 42 DCA slots, whats wrong with this deal?
I want this to go to trial, too many mergers in the last few years and the DOJ finally has awakened. AA can compete just fine, its US that needs this merger as it brings very little to the table compared with AA.
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Well you better get ready then because it looks like it's going to happen and even the doj knows they are fighting a losing battle.

ERfly said:
Lemme guess. Eagle guy?
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Think he's Piedmont and PSA, I've been hearing a few regional guys pout about this merger because they might lose flying or not get a bigger rj or their flow might be delayed a little bit. This guy sounds like he's either bitter about the vote at psa or he's a lifer at Piedmont that is worried his shrinking dash 8 fleet won't be replaced.
 
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cbrown1 said:
Think he's Piedmont and PSA, I've been hearing a few regional guys pout about this merger because they might lose flying or not get a bigger rj or their flow might be delayed a little bit. This guy sounds like he's either bitter about the vote at psa or he's a lifer at Piedmont that is worried his shrinking dash 8 fleet won't be replaced.
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I can't see his profile on my phone. I know some Eagle guys are pissy because it hurts their flow-through and AA seAAt they're entitled to.
 
ERfly said:
I can't see his profile on my phone. I know some Eagle guys are pissy because it hurts their flow-through and AA seAAt they're entitled to.
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It's looking like this thing is a pretty in the final stages of being completed. Some people are going to be mad (entitled flow-thru pilots and frequent fliers) but they are going to have to get over it and pay their dues like everyone else.
 
Cbrown,

I have to disagree. This thing is far from being settled. All depends on what Parker is willing to give up. If he doesn't want to give up what they are asking for, it's headed to trial.
 
JumpersAway said:
This is irritating, to say the least. Divest slots in DCA?????? Has anyone realized that you will soon be able to take the DC Metro Silver Line to IAD? Who is going to grab up more LGA slots- DAL pretty much owns the place already. I have to give it to the DOJ- they've certainly done a fantastic job of manipulating the facts to suit their argument. They remind me of a skeezy used car salesman in a cheap suit.
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You just described USAPA.
 
OState597 said:
Cbrown,

I have to disagree. This thing is far from being settled. All depends on what Parker is willing to give up. If he doesn't want to give up what they are asking for, it's headed to trial.
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Parker wants this more than anyone at either airline, I'm betting he will do what it takes to make sure it gets done.
 

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