U.S. Customs Aviation

[steveg]

I noticed on the job posting that Kansas City was one of the possible bases. Anyone know what they fly there, and how guys like the action? I can't imagine they'd be real busy?

Thanks

 

[2LT]

Notice of Results

Forrest, maybe you can chime in on this-

I just got my Notice of Results back from the DEU (Delegated Examining Unit) regarding the recent vacancy announcement. Thinking that it was all points based, I was surprised to see a Rating Code with the letters "EA" next to the position title. Any idea what this means? Sh*t canned? I'm just a civvy guy without any NVG/FLIR experience, etc. -- wouldn't be surprised. Just curious...

 

[rcbullock]

>1500TT?

Any chance of getting on with less than 1500TT?

Lots of (1600+) 707 airframe Navigator time and 500+ civilian, and of course I'm ex-mil. (Who else uses a Nav any more...)

Will they even look at you if you are working at a flying job and getting close?

 

[2LT]

www.aptap.org

http://forumco.com/aptap/topic.asp?...+Announcement&Forum_Title=APTAP+Message+Board

Cut and paste or click on the above link...if it doesn't work, here's the upshot [quoted]:

"There are no waivers for age or flight time requirements.

You are a very smart man for having your ap ready to go. I got delayed for at least 6-9 months back in '99 when I put my ap in. There was an initial cutoff prior to the closing date and my ap got shelved until they decided to process another batch.

I would assume if they will get plenty of aps, 700 is alot, they will start the process of reviewing them and scoring. If they do it like they did last year they will ask some of us to DC to go through them and do the scores.

If I hear anything I will post it."



Mike Montgomery


This is all off of www.aptap.org Somebody asked a similar question.

Regards,
2lt

 

[satpak77]

Give yourself some credit

Sh*t canned? I'm just a civvy guy without any NVG/FLIR experience, etc. -- wouldn't be surprised. Just curious...

This is what us "civilian" guys tend to do sometimes. We short-change ourselves before the show even starts. Why do we do this? Usually it goes like this:

"I see that (Insert XXXX Company) is hiring. I heard that (Insert below phrase), I wonder if I will have a chance" Pick any below phrase, all have been heard at the FBO/pilot lounge/hotel bar.

- Lots of "heavy" airline guys have apps in

- Gotta have 3 captains personally walk app in

- Its a "military place", lots of KC-135 and KC-10 guys with lots of time get hired

- Lots of Navy apps

- Lots of Air Force apps

- Lots of civilian apps

- etc etc ad nauseum


Why would a 4000 hour Metro Captain NOT be qualified? You are likely flying night freight, single pilot, correct? Who flies Metro PAX anymore? So you are a 4000 hour Part 135 or 121 turboprop Captain who flies at night, single pilot, IFR, with no AP (probably)? You are likley a little more qualifed than some applicants, a little less than others, but dont just sell yourself short.

You READ the announcement. Forget the NVG/Low Level/Phd/5000 hours C-5 time/Top Gun grad/former Blue Angels/Shuttle astronaurt/etc stuff.

Lots of Customs guys are former Eagle and also quite a few with 1520 hours TT and 501 hours multi, who were city police officers full time and over 10 year period flew part time at the FBO and/or instructed and made it to Customs. I know because I personally know some Customs pilots.

With Customs or the majors, don't short change yourself. Too many hungry guys want you to do that.

Apply, give YOURSELF a chance. Customs/FDX/SWA/porn movie industry cannot give you a chance until you give YOURSELF a chance first.

You might be surprised what can happen when you do that.


enough Dr. Phil, good luck

 

[steveg]

I remember in the announcement something about an early consideration if the app. was received before Jan 2nd or so. Maybe EA stands for Early App? I don't have my results back yet, but will chime in when I do.

 

[ChichiAV8B]

EA

"Eligibible Applicant"

 

[2LT]

ChiChi -
Yeah, seems that's what it means. Posted the same question on aptap.org and got the same response. Thanks for the input...

Regards,
2lt

 

[Forrest]

2LT,
Refering to the NVG/FLIR... I guess it would be great if you had that time, but it is just gear any monkey or pilot can learn to use. Almost all the prior military helo guys have the NVG time, but no one else. We definetly have a mixed bag of military and non-military. The application just gets you the interview. You have to sell yourself at the interview. No app, no interview. Be sure you fill out the application to the best of your ability. The folks that screen them in D.C. are not the sharpest tools in the shed. They will not call you if something is wrong, they will just go to the next app (at least that is what I was told). Customs is opening up 3 new units (D.C., upstate WA, and upstate NY), and the first Customs pilots are beginig to retire. Should be lots of hiring.

 

[USC***]

I received today the NOTICE OF RESULTS regarding the application I sent in. It says EA which I read above means eligible applicant. Does this mean my application was complete and correct? I was alittle nervous, when I mailed it in, because when I printed out some of the application parts, it didn't quite look right. I typed the app on the computer, but I think my software varied slightly from what it intended to be printed with. I did the best I could and double checked it numerous times.

What concerned me was on the top of the letter it says,"INCOMPLETE APPLICATIONS WILL BE RATED INELIGIBLE." So with the EA rating, am I in the clear?