Twin Comanche

[Fiveoh]

bump.

 

[Tired Soul]

PLEASE do slow flight above Vmc....

 

[jafo20]

I did my multi-engine training in a twin-comanche. We didn't have counter rotating props, but the instructor felt comfortable taking his students through the full performance envelope of the aircraft. The airplane was pretty nice to fly, overall.

sidenote:

Is C.R. still instructing out of IKK?

 

[skychicken]

I had responded but my post was lost in the flightinfo crash. I've given a lot of dual in the PA30. I thought it was a good trainer, but I've always been of the opinion that a trainer shouldn't have training wheels. If you get your multi in a dumbed down "safe" twin then you'll be dangerous in a "real" twin.

I've also done hundreds of Vmc demos in the PA30 and never scared myself. But as I posted before, beware of your students trying to maintain heading with bank. They will try to kill you. Wings level is the way to go. You might get away with it in a Seneca or Duchess but not in the twinkie. When the PA30 stalls, it really stalls and if you are single-engine you will spin. Also, if you stall it over the runway you will land very hard. It lands like a Mooney, there's a very narrow airspeed window for touchdown.

PA30's have a stall light but no horn. So watch it.

Another thing to watch with them is that some have extended prop sharfts and if you do stalls with full power you can rip the props off. Like everyone says, Its a great airplane and I did all my training in one and also taught in one for a while just be CAREFUL!!

 

[Lead Sled]

Another thing to watch with them is that some have extended prop shafts and if you do stalls with full power you can rip the props off.

Ah come on, you're joshing us. Who told you that?

'Sled

 

[JAC2LAS]

If anyone is interested in buying a 1976 PA-30, about 1800hrs. per engine, 7000 hrs. TT asking around 75k, PM me.

 

[ackattacker]

Another thing to watch with them is that some have extended prop sharfts and if you do stalls with full power you can rip the props off. Like everyone says, Its a great airplane and I did all my training in one and also taught in one for a while just be CAREFUL!!

I don't know about all that... but it's true that they have prop extensions, and it's true that they're placarded against power on stalls.

 

[Flyin Tony]

If anyone is interested in buying a 1976 PA-30, about 1800hrs. per engine, 7000 hrs. TT asking around 75k, PM me.

Would you take a trade on a 64 single 250? Im going to look at 2 twincomanches this weekend. Let me know -Tony

 

[FlyingToIST]

If anyone is interested in buying a 1976 PA-30, about 1800hrs. per engine, 7000 hrs. TT asking around 75k, PM me.

1976 PA-30? that's like 1950 747
Piper stoped making them in 1972..
Any Twinco with those hours is not worth 75K unless it has brand spanking new avionics.

 

[av8orboy]

Here is a story about a PA-30 and a friend of mine.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20021004X05281&key=1

 

[JAC2LAS]

1976 PA-30? that's like 1950 747
Piper stoped making them in 1972..
Any Twinco with those hours is not worth 75K unless it has brand spanking new avionics.

I have some ocean front propterty in Arizona too! Haha...you got me...it's a 67'...I got it a little backwards...well a lot backwards
The avionics arn't brand new by any means, but the 75k seems pretty inline with what I've seen on aso.com. It's not my aircraft though, so I'm not 100% what the guy wants for it, but I think his thinking was around 75, but again, I'm not sure.
With a pretty basic package (dual nav-com, DME, ADF) what do you think it'd be worth?

 

[scottn2flying]

Had my checkride for my MEI scheduled for tomorrow in the PA-30, but the DE called me and told me that you can't do any type of checkride with breaks only being on the left side. I called the FSDO as well and they agreed. Any suggestions?

 

[Big Dog]

I did my MEI about a year ago in a PA30 with no right side brakes, & I did the ride from the right side. We talked before the flight and came up with a procedure when I needed braking, I would calll for it. (I would say "Light braking please" ect.) We treated it like a lesson and systems task. It's totally up to the DE. Find another DE that will do it. I'm sure it was done all the time back in the day when right side brakes were much less common.

 

[BoilerUP]

I did my MEI ride in a Seneca with only left side brakes. I briefed the DE about the brakes, what I wanted him to do and when, and if he didn't comply I used the parking brake to slow down. It wasn't an issue.

 

[ackattacker]

Had my checkride for my MEI scheduled for tomorrow in the PA-30, but the DE called me and told me that you can't do any type of checkride with breaks only being on the left side. I called the FSDO as well and they agreed. Any suggestions?

I did my MEI ride in a PA30 without right side brakes. I don't know where they're coming up with this so-called rule.