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[GuppyWN]

Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 2:40pm MST


Southwest Airlines follows Denver sale with another sale; United still offers two-fers


Denver Business Journal

One day after ending its year-opening buy-one-get-one-free sale on tickets, Southwest Airlines launched a 72-hour fare sale on flights from Denver International Airport Tuesday.
The fares begin as low as $30 per person each way and apply to destinations across the United States. The sale ends at the close of the day Thursday.
Southwest, the Dallas-based airline that is the third-largest carrier at DIA, has been on a promotional whirlwind locally since losing a bidding war to acquire Denver-based Frontier Airlines in August. It has announced several rounds of new nonstop flights from the airport and has launched several extremely aggressive fare sales in that time.
President and CEO Gary Kelly said during an October visit to Denver that it was not the failed Frontier takeover that is driving the growth in Denver so much as the market response to Southwest since it began flying out of DIA in January 2006.
Click here to learn more about the Southwest deals out of Denver.
Meanwhile, United Airlines — DIA’s No. 1 carrier — continues to offer a free round-trip ticket to Colorado customers with the purchase of a qualifying ticket by Feb. 14.
Colorado customers who buy a qualifying ticket for travel in the United States, including Hawaii; Canada; Mexico; and the Caribbean will get a ticket to any North American destination, the airline said. And customers who buy a qualifying international ticket will get another overseas ticket.
The airline also said it would offer two North American fare-class upgrades with a qualifying purchase.
The offer applies to round-trip economy-class tickets booked by Feb. 14 from Colorado cities served by United for travel completed by March 5. For full details and restrictions, click here.
A Frontier Airlines offer of discounted fares to Mexico expired last week.

 

[saab fixr]

President and CEO Gary Kelly said during an October visit to Denver that it was not the failed Frontier takeover that is driving the growth in Denver so much as the market response to Southwest since it began flying out of DIA in January 2006.
SURE it wasnt!! sore loser

 

[RedDogC130]

do you really think we had any "real" interest in buying Frontier....it was just to get inside their books.

 

[75 Driver]

No, it was Airbus envy.....

Come on we all know you guys at WN are just dissy with anticipation to get your hands on the Bus....:laugh:

 

[RedDogC130]

Come on we all know you guys at WN are just dissy with anticipation to get your hands on the Bus....:laugh:

Oh...I thought is was to keep our pax from taking the bus...

 

[JerryLundegaard]

do you really think we had any "real" interest in buying Frontier....it was just to get inside their books.

I think GK had a real interrest in buying them, but you guys didn't have a real interrest in "sharing the wealth".

 

[Sandhawk]

Oh...I thought is was to keep our pax from taking the bus...

Ouch

:laugh:

 

[StopNTSing]

I think GK had a real interrest in buying them, but you guys didn't have a real interrest in "sharing the wealth".

Everyone is entitled to believe what they want to believe...

 

[D-Bo]

Shut up

Threads like this make me dislike SWA pilots more and more every day. So what? Your airline reduced the price on some tickets. What does that have to do with you flying the airplane? You fly an airplane. You aren't on a football team. You seem to get joy out of the notion that your house gets bigger if someone elses burns. Who really gives a fork? You just fly an airplane for a great airline. Enjoy it and keep it to yourself and your family.

Do SWA fare sales make you feel like you grew an extra quarter inch in your shorts? You don't own the airline. You don't run the airline. You don't determine the price on tickets. You just fly airplanes and make a PA joke here and there while taxiing and flying approaches faster than everyone else. You got lucky that you got on with an airline that is run by folks who actually run an airline. Be happy and STFU.

And no, I don't work for Frontier. I don't work for any airline anymore but know a JA thread when I see it.

 

[Bake]

And no, I don't work for Frontier. I don't work for any airline anymore but know a JA thread when I see it.

Then why are you here? Go away.

 

[Poahi]

...t it was not the failed Frontier takeover that is driving the growth ....
SURE it wasnt!! sore loser

If $30 fares are driving the growth SWA is looking for, we are all in trouble. This is what the network carriers did after 911 and it clearly didn't work.

 

[D-Bo]

And no, I don't work for Frontier. I don't work for any airline anymore but know a JA thread when I see it.

Then why are you here? Go away.

I'm here because I am, and will always be a pilot. Thanks for the constructive response. Did you grandson write that one "go away" for you?

 

[MILPILOT17]

Threads like this make me dislike SWA pilots more and more every day. So what? Your airline reduced the price on some tickets. What does that have to do with you flying the airplane? You fly an airplane. You aren't on a football team. You seem to get joy out of the notion that your house gets bigger if someone elses burns. Who really gives a fork? You just fly an airplane for a great airline. Enjoy it and keep it to yourself and your family.

Do SWA fare sales make you feel like you grew an extra quarter inch in your shorts? You don't own the airline. You don't run the airline. You don't determine the price on tickets. You just fly airplanes and make a PA joke here and there while taxiing and flying approaches faster than everyone else. You got lucky that you got on with an airline that is run by folks who actually run an airline. Be happy and STFU.

And no, I don't work for Frontier. I don't work for any airline anymore but know a JA thread when I see it.

Are you blaming all SWA pilots for the postings of a few individuals? How do you know for sure that the individual posting those remarks really works for SWA? See where I'm going with this? I have friends at many different carriers and I wouldn't say that I dislike all the pilots at that carrier just because someone makes a post on FI. I find most pilots to be very humble, hard working individuals who love to fly airplanes. Next rounds on me! Fly safe.

 

[Bake]

Your post did not deserve a constructive response, sorry! No, me enlishe techer rote thet wone fer me.

 

[Whataburger]

No, me enlishe techer rote thet wone fer me.

Their's you're problem.

 

[GuppyWN]

Frontier, United and Southwest are clearly in a battle for customers in Denver. That is why I posted this thread.

Gup

 

[Whataburger]

Frontier, United and Southwest are clearly in a battle for customers in Denver. That is why I posted this thread.

Gup

I just wanna know right now, young man, why you are posting INFOrmation about FLIGHT on a websight called FLIGHTINFO???????????????

 

[Dan Roman]

Frontier, United and Southwest are clearly in a battle for customers in Denver. That is why I posted this thread.

Gup

Well you did sound like a jerk. That said, we all stick our foot in our mouths once in awhile.

 

[Dan Roman]

Are you blaming all SWA pilots for the postings of a few individuals? How do you know for sure that the individual posting those remarks really works for SWA? See where I'm going with this? I have friends at many different carriers and I wouldn't say that I dislike all the pilots at that carrier just because someone makes a post on FI. I find most pilots to be very humble, hard working individuals who love to fly airplanes. Next rounds on me! Fly safe.

Good post, I've met a lot of really good people from SWA.

 

[Dan Roman]

I just wanna know right now, young man, why you are posting INFOrmation about FLIGHT on a websight called FLIGHTINFO???????????????

I thought you were up at the Olympics?

 

[PlaneDrvr]

Frontier, United and Southwest are clearly in a battle for customers in Denver. That is why I posted this thread.

Gup

Gup, Your right, it is going to be a 'battle' NO major airport has ever supported a '3 airline' domestic hub situation; it usually shakes out to 2 players in the end.

I know some might talk of JFK with DAL, AA and JB; but AA and DAL ops are mainly in support of their Int'l hub/feed and not purely domestic.

Airline Business 101, airlines in establishing a 'hub airport' normally want 60-65% 'local traffic' and you can only divide up the DEN pie so many ways. As i said, will eventually shake out to 2 players, may take 2-3, but that is the way I see it. Will be interesting!!!

PD

 

[Quimby]

I thought you were up at the Olympics?

He's probably on his laptop/iPhone between practice runs.

 

[relief tube]

why is anyone ever proud to post something about their airline's new fare sale that practically subsidizes flying?

If there weren't so many fare sales like this, maybe things like pensions, in-house MX, rampers/gate agents being able to support their families, and uncrowded skies would have stayed around instead of vanishing like a fart in the wind.

 

[maxblast72]

If $30 fares are driving the growth SWA is looking for, we are all in trouble. This is what the network carriers did after 911 and it clearly didn't work.

$30 fares aren't driving growth, Southwest has actually been shrinking on a year over year basis for several months now (who says you can't shrink to profitability). Southwest is testing Republic to see if Bedford knows what he is doing. And it isn't just Denver. Republic is also facing Southwest and Airtran in MKE. Southwest/Airtran have the ability to make the next 12 months for Republic very painful. Good airline managements make sure new competition doesn't get up and going. Look at how intense the competition was for Independence when they started several years ago.

 

[chqflyer]

$30 fares aren't driving growth, Southwest has actually been shrinking on a year over year basis for several months now (who says you can't shrink to profitability). Southwest is testing Republic to see if Bedford knows what he is doing. And it isn't just Denver. Republic is also facing Southwest and Airtran in MKE. Southwest/Airtran have the ability to make the next 12 months for Republic very painful. Good airline managements make sure new competition doesn't get up and going. Look at how intense the competition was for Independence when they started several years ago.

Holy c**p. Someone with an intelligent opinion. You bet your azz SWA is gonna put the hurt on RAH. It's called business. There's only room for 2 players in any hub, and a third tier regional ain't gonna have a seat at that table. I seriously believe we've bitten off way more than we can chew.

 

[Quimby]

Holy c**p. Someone with an intelligent opinion. You bet your azz SWA is gonna put the hurt on RAH. It's called business. There's only room for 2 players in any hub, and a third tier regional ain't gonna have a seat at that table. I seriously believe we've bitten off way more than we can chew.

Another intelligent statement.

What's going on around here?

 

[skypine69]

MESA sucks.

 

[waveflyer]

Do you really think $30 sales had more to do with UAL losing pensions than their corrupt mgmts/politics?
It may be tough- but it really is better for the strong to just put the weak out of their misery quick.
It would be a shame if a Dem would have to start lecturing about the realities and overall benefits of capitalism...

 

[bahumba]

Do you really think $30 sales had more to do with UAL losing pensions than their corrupt mgmts/politics?
It may be tough- but it really is better for the strong to just put the weak out of their misery quick.
It would be a shame if a Dem would have to start lecturing about the realities and overall benefits of capitalism...

?????? you are too cunning to be understood

 

[nimtz]

Very simple FI rule of thumb. Anytime a thread title contains a company ad slogan (dreamed up by yet another retarded agency) like "IT'S ON!", expect others to think of you as a kool aid swigging d-bag.