TSA WARNING: Commuters must be in Uniform

[rightseatjocky]

Amen to that John.
There is a web site for them, but I cannot remember it. I honestly wonder if writing TSA hq would make a difference.

 

[acaTerry]

Aw, PennyStamp, I didn't mean to make you cry.
You can bang on your tambourine and wear your pink glasses, but the fact is that the world is a bad place with bad people. And there are many of these bad people who want to eradicate us. It is that simple, I have seen it and experienced it firsthand as a Marine during the Bush 1 days. Yes, oil had a lot to do with that, but I saw that they HATE us out there. Even our arab "allies" have more of a "tolerate them, they buy our oil" than I thought. And Saddam should have been done in BACK THEN, but it was to appease liberals like you that we left TOO SOON.
These "bad" people also know that we have people like you who live in LaLa Land and think that everyone will love us if we lay down our arms and try to hug them. WAKE UP man! Hitler had the backing of his people, the civilian population Japan was elated from Pearl Harbor, and even our pals, the Russians, turned on us shortly after WWII. So did the Chinese. Do you know why nobody goes to all out war with us? Because we have NUKES. I don't fear North Korea, they don't want to die anymore than we do. But these Middle East people, they WANT to die for allah. They really, REALLY, REALLY need some watching. Don't try to pin it down to a "few" radical islam extremists". They are an en masse threat. The only reason that nobody will face up to it is because liberal crybabies, like you, start whining about it every time the issue is pointed at directly, akk in the name of "correctness". Richard Reed, for example. That was not his REAL name was it? No, that was his name taken in America. But the liberal press, dictated by people like you keep saying Richard Redd, hpoing to somehow keep the muslim steroetype at bay.
WHy don't you move to a Middle Eastern nation and see how long you last?
In the meantime let's just quit trying to distort everything from history to todays state that we are in to back up your uninformed, inexperienced (and I'm not talking flying here) and idealistic notions. You love to use history but you have learned NOTHING from it.
Here's some Kleenex.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Amen to that John.
There is a web site for them, but I cannot remember it. I honestly wonder if writing TSA hq would make a difference.

Writing the TSA would be useless. Only Congress will reign them in... if they get enough complaints of constituent abuse.

 

[VWDrvr21]

Uh huh. That was such a good response, I lost 10 IQ points just by reading it.

As said above, keep hiding behind Bill O'Reilly. Soundbites but no substance. You can't even come up with your own argument, you're the pipsqueak that hides behind the playground bully shouting Yeah! Yeah!





Oh... btw I'm married to a flight attendant, we fly together, and I probably get laid as much as much or more than any single guy. Not that it has ANYTHING to do with this debate. She's upstairs sleeping right now in my bed. Bet yours is empty.

Actually, i'm one of the many thousands who has served a tour of duty. Where were you?

 

[Prop2Jet]

Thanks for your service. People like you are what keeps this country safe.

 

[Morning Wood]

I fail to see how a figurehead is going to suddenly change the idiocy administration overnight, over even in a span of a few years. Vote 'em all out.

Neither is a nationwide sick out or thinking ALPA is going to put an end of this. This has been going on since the days immediately following 9/11 and nothing has changed.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Aw, PennyStamp, I didn't mean to make you cry.
You can bang on your tambourine and wear your pink glasses, but the fact is that the world is a bad place with bad people. And there are many of these bad people who want to eradicate us. It is that simple, I have seen it and experienced it firsthand as a Marine during the Bush 1 days. Yes, oil had a lot to do with that, but I saw that they HATE us out there. Even our arab "allies" have more of a "tolerate them, they buy our oil" than I thought. And Saddam should have been done in BACK THEN, but it was to appease liberals like you that we left TOO SOON.
These "bad" people also know that we have people like you who live in LaLa Land and think that everyone will love us if we lay down our arms and try to hug them. WAKE UP man! Hitler had the backing of his people, the civilian population Japan was elated from Pearl Harbor, and even our pals, the Russians, turned on us shortly after WWII. So did the Chinese. Do you know why nobody goes to all out war with us? Because we have NUKES. I don't fear North Korea, they don't want to die anymore than we do. But these Middle East people, they WANT to die for allah. They really, REALLY, REALLY need some watching. Don't try to pin it down to a "few" radical islam extremists". They are an en masse threat. The only reason that nobody will face up to it is because liberal crybabies, like you, start whining about it every time the issue is pointed at directly, akk in the name of "correctness". Richard Reed, for example. That was not his REAL name was it? No, that was his name taken in America. But the liberal press, dictated by people like you keep saying Richard Redd, hpoing to somehow keep the muslim steroetype at bay.
WHy don't you move to a Middle Eastern nation and see how long you last?
In the meantime let's just quit trying to distort everything from history to todays state that we are in to back up your uninformed, inexperienced (and I'm not talking flying here) and idealistic notions. You love to use history but you have learned NOTHING from it.
Here's some Kleenex.

Terry, at least we agree that "they" hate us.

Why do YOU think that is? Because we're infidels? Then explain all the muslims in other parts of the world that DON'T hate us.

I say it's because we imposed our will on that part of the world in 1945 and have been doing it since.

Maybe if we stop, they'll stop hating us in a few generations.

What do you think?

 

[acaTerry]

Terry, at least we agree that "they" hate us.

Why do YOU think that is? Because we're infidels? Then explain all the muslims in other parts of the world that DON'T hate us.

I say it's because we imposed our will on that part of the world in 1945 and have been doing it since.

Maybe if we stop, they'll stop hating us in a few generations.

What do you think?

I think I'll have another Black and Tan and answer after that. Helps me get more philosophical....

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Terry, at least we agree that "they" hate us.

Why do YOU think that is? Because we're infidels? Then explain all the muslims in other parts of the world that DON'T hate us.

I say it's because we imposed our will on that part of the world in 1945 and have been doing it since.

Maybe if we stop, they'll stop hating us in a few generations.

What do you think?

If you are actually interested about why the folks in the Middle East aren't exacly sending us Americans holiday cards, then check out Thomas Friedman's "The World is Flat." It is a book about globalization but it addresses at length the animosity between the Islamic societies of the Middle East and the West. He also wrote "From Beirut to Jerusalem," an oldie but a goodie. Written in the late 80's but very pertinate today.

Basically, they hate us because of what we have and the humiliation they feel for not being able to achieve what the west has achieved. Arabs and Persians have long memories... They used to be among the world's top societies. Now? They want what the west has, but don't want to give up the cultural rules are morays that are grounded in 11th century thought. Those attitudes and rules are not condusive to innovation and free market economies, necessary to progress in the modern world. The societies in the Middle East face an intractable delema: Give up the past for the sake of the future or give up the future for the sake of the past? All of my thoughts here are not so much my own, but gleaned from reading Friedman, Rushdie, et al. I happen to agree with them.

The question I have is not why they hate us. The question I have is, given what we know about the history fo the Middle East and it's political climate, what made the Bush administration think they could prance in and set up a constitutional democracy? After all, this area of the world has no history of democratic or humanist thought.

 

[acaTerry]

The question I have is not why they hate us. The question I have is, given what we know about the history fo the Middle East and it's political climate, what made the Bush administration think they could prance in and set up a constitutional democracy? After all, this area of the world has no history of democratic or humanist thought.

You answered your own question in a sense. But I have to say, having been there, that if you believe CNN, MSNBC, etc that everyone there wants us out, you'll buy anything. Time and again someone in this world is always crying for us to intervene, and (sometimes foolishly) we do. And then when the resistance begins, the citizenry of the USA cries to quit like a bunch of Frenchman.
I used to be somewhat of an isolationist, but after seeing things and reading much history, I have changed postions. I'm not saying we should go everywhere and "covert the world to democracy", but we shouldn't wait until it's too late again. Like we did in WWI, WWII, and almost in Cuba.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

You answered your own question in a sense. But I have to say, having been there, that if you believe CNN, MSNBC, etc that everyone there wants us out, you'll buy anything. Time and again someone in this world is always crying for us to intervene, and (sometimes foolishly) we do. And then when the resistance begins, the citizenry of the USA cries to quit like a bunch of Frenchman.
I used to be somewhat of an isolationist, but after seeing things and reading much history, I have changed postions. I'm not saying we should go everywhere and "covert the world to democracy", but we shouldn't wait until it's too late again. Like we did in WWI, WWII, and almost in Cuba.

You and I may disagree on the advisability of the initial invasion of Iraq, but it seems we would agree on the importance of staying and finishing the work that we began. It is important to remember that, like yourself, Islamic terrorists are also students of history. They learned thier most important lessons from painful events in America's history: Vietnam, the bombing of the Marine Barraks in Beruit, the Army Rangers in Somolia. If you bloody America's nose, they will cut and run. If we were to do this agian, not only would we be ensuring that Iraq would become a Islamo-fascist puppet of Iran, but we would again demonstrate that America is impotent abroad.

Don't think our future potential enemies, ones who really do pose a danger to our national security, aren't watching. What we do in Iraq has far reaching security implications.

Like the Arab/Persian world, we too have an intractable delema on our hands. Make some sense out of the chaos in Iraq at the cost of much blood and treasure? Or run away, and hope that our intelligence is always right and what is left of our credibility and military might can protect us from harm? Either way we seem to lose something important

IMHO, anyway.

 

[MrSky]

Not to get off topic here.......

But has anyone found out if this TSA "Crew member Changing Clothes" thing is Policy or just some guys with Big Badges making up their own rules. If so PM me so I can post it on our company board as a lot of our guys do just that.

Just thought I'd ask....

Now you can go back to your Iraq commentary!

 

[Prop2Jet]

New one is that TSA will screen employee cars within the airport grounds.... Great..... Can I get a free wax too!

 

[Fred Rogers]

If you are actually interested about why the folks in the Middle East aren't exacly sending us Americans holiday cards, then check out Thomas Friedman's "The World is Flat."

Great Book! Must Read! You are exactly right lowlypropcapt.

 

[acaTerry]

Not to get off topic here.......

But has anyone found out if this TSA "Crew member Changing Clothes" thing is Policy or just some guys with Big Badges making up their own rules. If so PM me so I can post it on our company board as a lot of our guys do just that.

Just thought I'd ask....

Now you can go back to your Iraq commentary!

You're getting us back on topic actually....

Funny thing the TSA, I had one "follow" me to the head, where I changed, but he saw my Teamsters pin and thought I was a FIDO/FFDO!!! Oh the laughs I got on that one....